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On the back of his first pole position last weekend, Mercedes driver Valtteri Bottas topped the second day of in-season testing at Sakhir. The Finn ejoyed a trouble-free day and completed a massive 143 laps.
I totally agree.Just_a_fan wrote:This isn't aimed at you Thunders.Thunders wrote:They did a Race Sim on Day 2 last Year too.
People need to remember that at this stage "race sim" doesn't mean "go as fast as you can for 70 laps". Race sims are a way of making sure that all of the bits will work for a race distance. It's a way of finding out how the tyres behave and how the car affects the tyres at a representative pace. Anyone thinking that a day 2 race sim is going to be indicative of in-season race pace needs to think again.
It's a data gathering exercise, nothing more.
Let's see what they're doing at the end of testing. Then we'll wait 'til Australia to see what they're actually capable of. Hell, it's entirely possible that RedBull will turn up in Oz and be 1s / lap quicker than anyone. Maybe Ferrari will be the fastest and Mercedes are suddenly mid field. We don't know and won't know until the first race.
#aerogollumturbof1 wrote: YOU SHALL NOT......STALLLLL!!!
=D> If we just had more comments like these, we could get rid of the sour grapes.GoranF1 wrote:I think Mclaren has gone a bit to far whit sandbagging now.
Is this turn 9 ?Just_a_fan wrote:Looks like Bottas had a spin during his stint and kissed the wall.
https://twitter.com/F1/status/836609573 ... wsrc%5Etfw
I think they have built a monday-morning lawnmowerGoranF1 wrote:I think Mclaren has gone a bit to far whit sandbagging now.
Feb.24 - F1 teams are reacting with positive surprise to news that Pirelli will drop the pressures of its tyres in 2017.
Last year, many teams and drivers complained about the very high minimum pressures mandated by Pirelli on safety grounds.
Now, the sport is switching to much bigger, wider, grippier and less degrading tyres for 2017, but some engineers were warning that if the pressures did not drop as well, they may not actually be much faster.
"If we have to go over 25 PSI, the laptimes won't be faster than last year," one engineer was quoted by Auto Motor und Sport.
But the German publication says Pirelli will actually mandate 22 PSI for front tyres and 18 PSI for the rears starting with Barcelona testing next week.
An engineering source at Renault reacted: "That is very brave. With those tyres pressures, we will really be able to see what the new cars can do."
Just for the record, Merc really didn't sandbag for 2014, fastest laps tell very little, they usually aren't very close to the real laps in races. People look at fastest times, don't see Merc win everyone and assume they aren't the fastest, but their long stint times and the circumstances around their faster laps all screamed "holy **** they are fast". Like they'd do a their fastest lap... followed by another 10 laps. If you only look at say a Sky round up, they honestly have no idea what they are talking about, that and they want to spice things up by hyping up a big battle. It was really obvious from the few statements by people who actually know what they are talking about saying how ridiculously good the Merc looked through every corner. RBR was visibly worse when they could run. Don't forget 2014 also had the Merc = eleventy billion laps, RBR barely running and not looking brilliant when it did and Ferrari looking a not close on chassis or power. Merc through testing looked a league above everyone else though I can't directly remember their fastest lap times, they don't like to show off fastest laps in general, just good long runs.Shakeman wrote:Quite right, people should keep in mind 2014 and just how much Merc were able to sandbag and kept their powder dry right up till quali in Melbourne.turbof1 wrote:Guys, these are new regulations. Everybody is starting from a blank sheet. What we now see are basic cars to get an understanding of them. Next week and in Melbourne the teams will introduce upgrade packages. Until then it is pointless to try to tell which car is better. The only thing we can make assumptions about at this stage, is reliability.
It's also possible to get some idea of relative tyre deg but not much more.
I disagree actually. You can't tell much this early in testing but by the end, once you've seen multiple race sims you have a pretty good idea of the pecking order.Thunders wrote:I totally agree.Just_a_fan wrote:This isn't aimed at you Thunders.Thunders wrote:They did a Race Sim on Day 2 last Year too.
People need to remember that at this stage "race sim" doesn't mean "go as fast as you can for 70 laps". Race sims are a way of making sure that all of the bits will work for a race distance. It's a way of finding out how the tyres behave and how the car affects the tyres at a representative pace. Anyone thinking that a day 2 race sim is going to be indicative of in-season race pace needs to think again.
It's a data gathering exercise, nothing more.
Let's see what they're doing at the end of testing. Then we'll wait 'til Australia to see what they're actually capable of. Hell, it's entirely possible that RedBull will turn up in Oz and be 1s / lap quicker than anyone. Maybe Ferrari will be the fastest and Mercedes are suddenly mid field. We don't know and won't know until the first race.