Scuderia Ferrari SF70H

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f300v10
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More shots of the spoon rear wing:

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Fede90 wrote:I have another idea...maybe and i say, maybe...the relatively simplicity of RB's diffuser can be compensated by new and discussed suspension with the "hydraulic work". Let me use this word.
When you have a great system that can change the hight from the ground, do you need a complex diffuser that give you more downforce?

imho.
Why not have both then?

Moreover the "hydraulick trick" should work while the car is on the straights (when downforce is less important than reducing drag) and stopping working when braking for a turn, where you need downforce and thus a performing diffuser.

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This is probably a ludicrous suggestion but would it be possible for their to be wire heating elements in the floor to add heat to air going over the diffuser? (i really can't imagine that they could be hot enough to substantially effect the air going over the diffuser to make much of a difference.

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Could they simply be ducting hot cables out into the floor where they can be cooled, freeing up space in the chassis and reducing the need for cooling?

Or clearly none of the above!

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bonjon1979 wrote:
This is probably a ludicrous suggestion but would it be possible for their to be wire heating elements in the floor to add heat to air going over the diffuser? (i really can't imagine that they could be hot enough to substantially effect the air going over the diffuser to make much of a difference.

or

Could they simply be ducting hot cables out into the floor where they can be cooled, freeing up space in the chassis and reducing the need for cooling? (This actually seems like a non-starter because the temperature of the channel is at it's hottest in the middle rather than at either end). Curious.

Or clearly none of the above!

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This is also inline with prediction of this being at least a 3 horse race for the championship. Newey is taking his sweet time with evaluating the RB13s basic flow structure before piling on the magic make you wanna give up and go home bits. I fully expect them to show off next week.

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Due to the area being almost enclosed and the unpainted carbon, it has been difficult to understand what's going on with the vanes that connect the Ferrari's "horns" with sidepods. I am refering to these ones :

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The following picture is taken from http://autosprint.corrieredellosport.it/ :

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This is what I see: two curled elements with aerodynamical purpose, other than structural :

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Since 2009, just by the looks of it, Ferrari seems the fastest car so far. I've watched some of the track videos, you can inherently see that they are better everywhere than everybody else, including the high speed corners. Their sidepod solution seems to be the best solution out there. Bravo Ferrari.
Wroom wroom

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jagunx51
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cmiiw, the left pic ( the green arrow) looks different than the right pic

looks like a bump than a twist, it looks thick

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GTO99
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f300v10 wrote:Great view of the diffusor. Open the image in a new tab, its very hi rez:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5xTqCeWAAEt6Hz.jpg:large
Why are the outer 2 vertical fins & the outside edge of the diffusor cut higher than the interior fins? Wouldn't extending them down to the floor create a better air seal within the tunnel?

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ripper wrote:
Fede90 wrote:I have another idea...maybe and i say, maybe...the relatively simplicity of RB's diffuser can be compensated by new and discussed suspension with the "hydraulic work". Let me use this word.
When you have a great system that can change the hight from the ground, do you need a complex diffuser that give you more downforce?

imho.
Why not have both then?

Moreover the "hydraulick trick" should work while the car is on the straights (when downforce is less important than reducing drag) and stopping working when braking for a turn, where you need downforce and thus a performing diffuser.
All those complex flaps on Ferrari's diffuser might slow the air that incoming from the front. Maybe on RB they don't want this kind of effect.

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GTO99 wrote:
f300v10 wrote:Great view of the diffusor. Open the image in a new tab, its very hi rez:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5xTqCeWAAEt6Hz.jpg:large
Why are the outer 2 vertical fins & the outside edge of the diffusor cut higher than the interior fins? Wouldn't extending them down to the floor create a better air seal within the tunnel?
The height is specified in the regulations.


3.11.8 All sprung parts of the car situated behind a line 175mm in front of the rear wheel centre line, which are visible from underneath and are more than 250mm from the car centre line, must be at least 50mm above the reference plane.

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GTO99
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mikhak wrote:
GTO99 wrote:
f300v10 wrote:Great view of the diffusor. Open the image in a new tab, its very hi rez:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5xTqCeWAAEt6Hz.jpg:large
Why are the outer 2 vertical fins & the outside edge of the diffusor cut higher than the interior fins? Wouldn't extending them down to the floor create a better air seal within the tunnel?
The height is specified in the regulations.


3.11.8 All sprung parts of the car situated behind a line 175mm in front of the rear wheel centre line, which are visible from underneath and are more than 250mm from the car centre line, must be at least 50mm above the reference plane.
Gr8, thanks.