Ok, I understand now what you meant. Agreed, I believe all of this, what we mentioned, is in effort to bend the oncoming airflow downwards and send it to the coke bottle as much as possible. And like I said earlier, this isn't easy at all. Which is why we won't be seeing other teams copying this solution this year... If it turns out to be a good one, they probably will next year.bhall II wrote:I'll put that another way: instead of high pressure buildup that begins at the top leading edge of the sidepod opening...
http://cdn.images.autosport.com/editori ... 941048.jpg
...the Ferrari design appears to do so from the bottom leading edge, just like a race wing.
Heating can have a direct aerodynamic effect; see https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi ... 009186.pdf for instance.Mr.G wrote:It was on the launch pictures too...PhillipM wrote:The only thing I can think it's they're the hydraulic lines to the accumulators in the sidepods and they've put them in the floor to let the airflow cool them - perhaps instead of using a seperate small oil cooler.
Or, they've painted some black lines on the floor and stuck some spare temperature strips on there to send the other teams on a wild goose chasse?
Great picture!bhall II wrote:I'll put that another way: instead of high pressure buildup that begins at the top leading edge of the sidepod opening...
http://cdn.images.autosport.com/editori ... 941048.jpg
...the Ferrari design appears to do so from the bottom leading edge, just like a race wing.
I think the black line is just a weaving pattern, but not sure why they put the strip around itPhillipM wrote:The only thing I can think it's they're the hydraulic lines to the accumulators in the sidepods and they've put them in the floor to let the airflow cool them - perhaps instead of using a seperate small oil cooler.
Or, they've painted some black lines on the floor and stuck some spare temperature strips on there to send the other teams on a wild goose chasse?
I think they still use their successful louvre design radiator guide vanes. The extra opening on top seems to be actually a row of downturning winglets to force air downward to the lower louvres in the side pod. The lower part of the radiator normally would get the hotter air and so i think theses extra winglets inside the side pod inlet are juat to keep the cooling accross the radiator more even and more aligned with the louvres.f300v10 wrote:https://imgr1.auto-motor-und-sport.de/K ... 010503.jpg
I think this photo just confirms that it's easier to place the blower on the top opening and avoid the risk of damaging any internal elements...6 of 12 wrote:Great analysis of the sidepod layout!
It would appear, however that everyone has forgotten about the photo below. It clearly confirms that the top intakes are the main cooling intakes. We do not have to speculate about that.
https://s31.postimg.org/4zh0ousij/2017_ ... _55_42.png
Flaps on the top opening most likely have multiple purpose, both getting a desired amount of air in the intake in the first place and then guiding it where it should go. Don't think you can make them do just one of those things, though. All the other louvers and elements are most likely there for cooling purposes only, but we'll see this area better once the racing starts and garages have to be open...PlatinumZealot wrote:I think they still use their successful louvre design radiator guide vanes. The extra opening on top seems to be actually a row of downturning winglets to force air downward to the lower louvres in the side pod. The lower part of the radiator normally would get the hotter air and so i think theses extra winglets inside the side pod inlet are juat to keep the cooling accross the radiator more even and more aligned with the louvres.
edu2703 wrote:Do you want to see a good analysis on the pre-season tests this week by team? This one was written by Adaulto Silva, a Brazilian F1 journalist. He is not widely known outside Brazil, but his analysis is the best I've read so far. Translated using '' Google Translate '', then expect to see some english mistakes.
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FERRARI - Surprising! The Italians did not use what James Allison was programming for this car and started late from scratch. All with people 'from Italy'. Historically this has not been working for Ferrari. In the last 20 years the Scuderia has needed a lot of 'foreign' engineers to succeed, but this time the car looks well-born. With much more mileage - only losing to Mercedes - than they did last year, long stints and reliable, good speed on the straight and optimum performance on the curves, the SF70H proved much stronger than expected.
Both Raikkonen and Vettel made long stints with medium tires and the car behaved very well in the braking and cornering, balanced and without much escape from ideal race line. And with consistent times. Let's see what the Italians book us for the tests next week, but they certainly started very well. It remains to hope that the car does not 'undo' as it has happened before. But I'm optimistic.
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Original article (In Portuguese): http://www.autoracing.com.br/analise-da ... 1-parte-1/
Hopefully I can keep this phrased in such a way that makes it applicable to the car thread rather than team...gioma wrote:Hi all,
some great analysis on the car aerodynamics and construction already done by some of you but I think is worth to mention that the engine seems powerful and very reliable, which means that cooling needs are well controlled with current design configuration. May be sidepods can still be tightened even knowing, running temperatures were lower during these 4 days test than will be on most of the races!
Cheers
Now Scarbs also mentioned that Ferrari supplier Mahle did seem to have some patents in this area (as a complete side note: if a supplier with an exclusive deal with a particular manufacturer has a patent on the technology, doesn't that mean others cannot copy it?) which lends credence to the claim, as does the fact that the other rumours from the same publication of 'interesting' shapes on the Ferrari - which were to some extent dismissed amongst the more pervading pessimism - seem to have been borne out.It is possible that the power unit that will be fitted to the car for the testing phase will be just a first step though, because back in the engine department, chief designer Sassi Lorenzo and Enrico Gualteri, who is responsible for assembly, are hoping to finalise bold changes that could deliver a big step forward in performance