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http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/view/ ... safe_mode/

new engine spec for Melbourne apparently
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I don't get it:

Merc was running low engine settings they claim, but they need to test the high settings as well in order to test reliability no?
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There will be an engine upgrade next week, then it all starts over from scratch (checking that the new engine is reliable already in the lower modes, etc.)

Or am I'm seeing things wrong?
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It could be like the beginning of 2015 (?) when they couldn't push to the max for long periods until Canada, recall the small bulge on the engine cover near the exhaust? "Upgraded engine" read as "upgraded PU", minor changes for reliability

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De Jokke wrote:I don't get it:

Merc was running low engine settings they claim, but they need to test the high settings as well in order to test reliability no?
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There will be an engine upgrade next week, then it all starts over from scratch (checking that the new engine is reliable already in the lower modes, etc.)

Or am I'm seeing things wrong?
The report I saw from Sky Sports (Ted Kravitz - #-o ) seemed to make some pretty speculative claims regarding reliability, given what had actually been said by team members.

I doubt they (or any team for that matter) have run the power unit in qualifying mode yet as the focus on this part of the test appeared to be setup work, aero validation and long runs to check race procedures, but I also doubt that they've run with it 'turned down' for reliability reasons as the report would have you believe.

What was actually said by Mercedes team members (can't remember who was quoted), was that there was more to come from the power unit, and that failures on the test beds and throughout testing are desirable as they highlight issues before the racing season starts.
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De Jokke wrote:I don't get it:

Merc was running low engine settings they claim, but they need to test the high settings as well in order to test reliability no?
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There will be an engine upgrade next week, then it all starts over from scratch (checking that the new engine is reliable already in the lower modes, etc.)

Or am I'm seeing things wrong?
1 - parts are still being made for the cars, the final engine probably wasn't signed off until this week, people forget just how last minute parts are made for F1 - why would you sign the race engine off a month ago when you're still developing it?

2 - Most of your basic parts will be the same, it'll be optimisations in the fuel/oil spec, weight reductions, fine tuning, mapping that's a little closer to the edge, etc. So you have no problem proving basic reliability at the first test.

3 - The one people forget every single year in the hype - the first week of testing is generally just about making sure the car is bolted together properly, doing a load of correlation work on your aero and suspension to check all your simulations are correct or to correct them where they need it, and get the crews used to the new assembly procedures, etc.
Next week is generally where new parts get tested out for actual performance.

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PhillipM wrote:
De Jokke wrote:I don't get it:

Merc was running low engine settings they claim, but they need to test the high settings as well in order to test reliability no?
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There will be an engine upgrade next week, then it all starts over from scratch (checking that the new engine is reliable already in the lower modes, etc.)

Or am I'm seeing things wrong?
1 - parts are still being made for the cars, the final engine probably wasn't signed off until this week, people forget just how last minute parts are made for F1 - why would you sign the race engine off a month ago when you're still developing it?

2 - Most of your basic parts will be the same, it'll be optimisations in the fuel/oil spec, weight reductions, fine tuning, mapping that's a little closer to the edge, etc. So you have no problem proving basic reliability at the first test.

3 - The one people forget every single year in the hype - the first week of testing is generally just about making sure the car is bolted together properly, doing a load of correlation work on your aero and suspension to check all your simulations are correct or to correct them where they need it, and get the crews used to the new assembly procedures, etc.
Next week is generally where new parts get tested out for actual performance.
Other than for their own cars, they also supply the engines to 2 other teams (Williams and FI). They themselves need not have to run it on full power and can sandbag their overall performance. They still have customer teams, who for sure run it at max power and Mercedes receives feedback for the reliability, along with all other types of feedback related to PU, from those teams. Because Mercedes supplies exact same configuration PU to all the customer teams, they can reliably receive the feedback and calibrate it for their own cars. If the memory serves correct, Mercedes haven't run their car at full power in any of the seasons since 2014.

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Mercedes do run their engine at max power. It is testing they must do this. They just don't do any timed laps when they do.
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PlatinumZealot wrote:Mercedes do run their engine at max power. It is testing they must do this. They just don't do any timed laps when they do.
Or would do it with a lot of fuel on board.

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I think the the edge of the floor too.

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The upper part of the sidepod inlet is new too

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