2017 F1 general testing thread

Post here all non technical related topics about Formula One. This includes race results, discussions, testing analysis etc. TV coverage and other personal questions should be in Off topic chat.
Wass85
Wass85
3
Joined: 01 Mar 2017, 22:11

Re: 2017 F1 Pre-season testing February 27 - March 2/ March 7-10

Post

Hamilton not a happy bunny at all. He's stated the car wasn't feeling great at all and they had high tyre degradation. Backs up the claims earlier from someone watching trackside that the car didn't look planted. I'm slightly worried about this year.

User avatar
GPR-A duplicate2
64
Joined: 07 Aug 2014, 09:00

Re: 2017 F1 Pre-season testing February 27 - March 2/ March 7-10

Post

Lewis on Sky:

Just 49 laps for Lewis Hamilton this morning for Mercedes and, speaking to the media in the lunchbreak, the Briton admitted the W08 hadn't been handling at its best:

"It wasn't feeling great today, but that's just with set-up and it's quite hot today as well so tyres degrading and things like that," he told Sky Sports News HQ.

"And we had some damage to the floor, but I didn't have any offs or anything like that, which is a good thing. I did see puffs of smoke from other people going off, but I managed to keep it on.
"Just a bit of an awkward balance today and I think the tempeartures are a bit higher today, so it's harder on the tyres. Perhaps not having the car really in the window, but also having damage to the floor meant there was good corners and not-so-good corners. So they're working on that to make sure Valtteri has a clean afternoon.

"I'm not particularly excited at the moment, just because it's the first day of week two and I didn't get a lot of running this morning, so I'm looking to the next couple of days."

supermarine
supermarine
8
Joined: 22 Feb 2017, 23:23

Re: 2017 F1 Pre-season testing February 27 - March 2/ March 7-10

Post

If people want to speculate about this year's Barcelona qually time it's worth remembering that most teams will have improved aero quite a bit by then particularly in an era of new regs. I don't think squeezing into the 1:17s is a ridiculous idea.
Last edited by supermarine on 07 Mar 2017, 16:30, edited 1 time in total.

Restomaniac
Restomaniac
0
Joined: 16 May 2016, 01:09
Location: Hull

Re: 2017 F1 Pre-season testing February 27 - March 2/ March 7-10

Post

Wass85 wrote:Hamilton not a happy bunny at all. He's stated the car wasn't feeling great at all and they had high tyre degradation. Backs up the claims earlier from someone watching trackside that the car didn't look planted. I'm slightly worried about this year.
You failed to mention that he stated there was damage to the floor.
Hmm.

Sevach
Sevach
1081
Joined: 07 Jun 2012, 17:00

Re: 2017 F1 Pre-season testing February 27 - March 2/ March 7-10

Post

That's awfully upfront about it.

User avatar
Vasconia
6
Joined: 30 Aug 2012, 10:45
Location: Basque Country

Re: 2017 F1 Pre-season testing February 27 - March 2/ March 7-10

Post

Andres125sx wrote: Can you please wait at least until we can see how the car perform?

This is testing, problems here are to be expected, and those problems mean we´ve not see the car performing yet :roll:

If tests are a mess, but once the season start the Melbourne spec PU have solved these problems and can perform, I´ll be happy, even if it does continue with reliability problems from time to time
One of the problems of this mess is that Honda must have ready the PU for tomorrow if I am not wrong. Because the validated PU will be the one for the first race. So taking into account that they are facing (yet) another engine change things don´t look very well.

Wass85
Wass85
3
Joined: 01 Mar 2017, 22:11

Re: 2017 F1 Pre-season testing February 27 - March 2/ March 7-10

Post

GPR-A wrote:Lewis on Sky:

Just 49 laps for Lewis Hamilton this morning for Mercedes and, speaking to the media in the lunchbreak, the Briton admitted the W08 hadn't been handling at its best:

"It wasn't feeling great today, but that's just with set-up and it's quite hot today as well so tyres degrading and things like that," he told Sky Sports News HQ.

"And we had some damage to the floor, but I didn't have any offs or anything like that, which is a good thing. I did see puffs of smoke from other people going off, but I managed to keep it on.
"Just a bit of an awkward balance today and I think the tempeartures are a bit higher today, so it's harder on the tyres. Perhaps not having the car really in the window, but also having damage to the floor meant there was good corners and not-so-good corners. So they're working on that to make sure Valtteri has a clean afternoon.

"I'm not particularly excited at the moment, just because it's the first day of week two and I didn't get a lot of running this morning, so I'm looking to the next couple of days."
Very frustrating day for him, I genuinely think they are struggling relative to Ferrari and Redbull. They certainly have the engine but from what I've seen of the footage they are third best in the chassis department.
Last edited by Wass85 on 07 Mar 2017, 16:34, edited 1 time in total.

Restomaniac
Restomaniac
0
Joined: 16 May 2016, 01:09
Location: Hull

Re: 2017 F1 Pre-season testing February 27 - March 2/ March 7-10

Post

GPR-A wrote:Lewis on Sky:

Just 49 laps for Lewis Hamilton this morning for Mercedes and, speaking to the media in the lunchbreak, the Briton admitted the W08 hadn't been handling at its best:

"It wasn't feeling great today, but that's just with set-up and it's quite hot today as well so tyres degrading and things like that," he told Sky Sports News HQ.

"And we had some damage to the floor, but I didn't have any offs or anything like that, which is a good thing. I did see puffs of smoke from other people going off, but I managed to keep it on.
"Just a bit of an awkward balance today and I think the tempeartures are a bit higher today, so it's harder on the tyres. Perhaps not having the car really in the window, but also having damage to the floor meant there was good corners and not-so-good corners. So they're working on that to make sure Valtteri has a clean afternoon.

"I'm not particularly excited at the moment, just because it's the first day of week two and I didn't get a lot of running this morning, so I'm looking to the next couple of days."
So 0.2 and 0.4 behind the Ferrari and Red Bull with a damaged floor.

Wass85
Wass85
3
Joined: 01 Mar 2017, 22:11

Re: 2017 F1 Pre-season testing February 27 - March 2/ March 7-10

Post

Restomaniac wrote:
Wass85 wrote:Hamilton not a happy bunny at all. He's stated the car wasn't feeling great at all and they had high tyre degradation. Backs up the claims earlier from someone watching trackside that the car didn't look planted. I'm slightly worried about this year.
You failed to mention that he stated there was damage to the floor.
Hmm.
How did that happen then, he said he had no off's? Why didn't the team pick it up on their data?

Wass85
Wass85
3
Joined: 01 Mar 2017, 22:11

Re: 2017 F1 Pre-season testing February 27 - March 2/ March 7-10

Post

Restomaniac wrote:
GPR-A wrote:Lewis on Sky:

Just 49 laps for Lewis Hamilton this morning for Mercedes and, speaking to the media in the lunchbreak, the Briton admitted the W08 hadn't been handling at its best:

"It wasn't feeling great today, but that's just with set-up and it's quite hot today as well so tyres degrading and things like that," he told Sky Sports News HQ.

"And we had some damage to the floor, but I didn't have any offs or anything like that, which is a good thing. I did see puffs of smoke from other people going off, but I managed to keep it on.
"Just a bit of an awkward balance today and I think the tempeartures are a bit higher today, so it's harder on the tyres. Perhaps not having the car really in the window, but also having damage to the floor meant there was good corners and not-so-good corners. So they're working on that to make sure Valtteri has a clean afternoon.

"I'm not particularly excited at the moment, just because it's the first day of week two and I didn't get a lot of running this morning, so I'm looking to the next couple of days."
So 0.2 and 0.4 behind the Ferrari and Red Bull with a damaged floor.
With no idea how much time that cost if at all?

Sevach
Sevach
1081
Joined: 07 Jun 2012, 17:00

Re: 2017 F1 Pre-season testing February 27 - March 2/ March 7-10

Post

That's curious indeed, the team was trialling a new floor that borrows from last years W floor today, why did it break with no off track excursions?

Running too low? Floor needs to be reinforced?

BosF1
BosF1
18
Joined: 19 Dec 2016, 10:27
Location: Netherlands

Re: 2017 F1 Pre-season testing February 27 - March 2/ March 7-10

Post

Ferrari is impressive: 1:19,9xx with soft tyres.

Restomaniac
Restomaniac
0
Joined: 16 May 2016, 01:09
Location: Hull

Re: 2017 F1 Pre-season testing February 27 - March 2/ March 7-10

Post

Wass85 wrote:
Restomaniac wrote:
Wass85 wrote:Hamilton not a happy bunny at all. He's stated the car wasn't feeling great at all and they had high tyre degradation. Backs up the claims earlier from someone watching trackside that the car didn't look planted. I'm slightly worried about this year.
You failed to mention that he stated there was damage to the floor.
Hmm.
How did that happen then, he said he had no off's? Why didn't the team pick it up on their data?
I don't know I wasn't in the car or the Merc garage.

User avatar
GPR-A duplicate2
64
Joined: 07 Aug 2014, 09:00

Re: 2017 F1 Pre-season testing February 27 - March 2/ March 7-10

Post

Sevach wrote:That's curious indeed, the team was trialling a new floor that borrows from last years W floor today, why did it break with no off track excursions?

Running too low? Floor needs to be reinforced?
May be some manufacturing defect? OR some aerodynamic load is slightly out of calibration?

If Lewis says, they might correct the problem for Valtteri, then may be they have a backup plan.

Restomaniac
Restomaniac
0
Joined: 16 May 2016, 01:09
Location: Hull

Re: 2017 F1 Pre-season testing February 27 - March 2/ March 7-10

Post

Wass85 wrote:
Restomaniac wrote:
GPR-A wrote:Lewis on Sky:

Just 49 laps for Lewis Hamilton this morning for Mercedes and, speaking to the media in the lunchbreak, the Briton admitted the W08 hadn't been handling at its best:

"It wasn't feeling great today, but that's just with set-up and it's quite hot today as well so tyres degrading and things like that," he told Sky Sports News HQ.

"And we had some damage to the floor, but I didn't have any offs or anything like that, which is a good thing. I did see puffs of smoke from other people going off, but I managed to keep it on.
"Just a bit of an awkward balance today and I think the tempeartures are a bit higher today, so it's harder on the tyres. Perhaps not having the car really in the window, but also having damage to the floor meant there was good corners and not-so-good corners. So they're working on that to make sure Valtteri has a clean afternoon.

"I'm not particularly excited at the moment, just because it's the first day of week two and I didn't get a lot of running this morning, so I'm looking to the next couple of days."
So 0.2 and 0.4 behind the Ferrari and Red Bull with a damaged floor.
With no idea how much time that cost if at all?
Damaged floors generally cost time.