2017 F1 general testing thread

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Re: 2017 F1 Pre-season testing February 27 - March 2/ March 7-10

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That was it. Red flag to end the day. Hulkenberg stopped on track.

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Re: 2017 F1 Pre-season testing February 27 - March 2/ March 7-10

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Fastest times today with the type of tire used.
1.F. Massa1:19:7261662. Supersofts
D. Ricciardo1:19:900863.S. Ultrasofts
Vettel1:19:906166 Softs

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proteus
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Re: 2017 F1 Pre-season testing February 27 - March 2/ March 7-10

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FW17 wrote:Mercedes issues coincide with the appearance of James Allison.

Maybe Ferrari got rid of the jinx.
Well how than Mclaren aint doing much better since they sacked Sam Michael? :lol:
If i would get the money to start my own F1 team, i would revive Arrows

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Re: 2017 F1 Pre-season testing February 27 - March 2/ March 7-10

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proteus wrote:
FW17 wrote:Mercedes issues coincide with the appearance of James Allison.

Maybe Ferrari got rid of the jinx.
Well how than Mclaren aint doing much better since they sacked Sam Michael? :lol:
That guy was more than a jinx

He sucked the soul out of Williams and Mclaren, will take a while to recover

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Re: 2017 F1 Pre-season testing February 27 - March 2/ March 7-10

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Vettel and Massa did 168 laps both. Impressive.

Wass85
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Re: 2017 F1 Pre-season testing February 27 - March 2/ March 7-10

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PhillipM wrote:
Afterburner wrote:Struggling for traction?

That's weird, longer wheelbase "in theory", should be better traction wise.
In theory it should be worse. Less weight transfer to the rear tyres under acceleration.
I thought a longer wheelbase gives you more stability at high speed?

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Re: 2017 F1 Pre-season testing February 27 - March 2/ March 7-10

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High speed is a grip/balance scenario far more than traction under accelleration.

I would imagine the traction issues are coming out of low/medium speed corners.
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Re: 2017 F1 Pre-season testing February 27 - March 2/ March 7-10

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The number of laps these drivers are doing in one day with these much higher downforce cars just boggles my mind!

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proteus wrote:I will never forget last years qualifying in Australia when Ferraris led at some point and then Mercedeses actually showing their pace. The camera guy perfectly caught how Arrivabiene changed his face from happy to destroyed in few seconds when both of them overtook Ferraris by quite a margin and one of the Sky comentators saying: "Haha, and Mercedes was sandbagging the whole testing" ...or something like that. :)

I think i have may caused a heartacking pain of a Ferrari fan :lol: Sorry but i wrote the truth about what happened last year and what may happen again in this season.
Do you think professional F1 team is not aware of competitors ballpark performance? They've seen all in qualifying anyway...

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Hamilton has stated Ferrari are the favourites as they've been the quickest so far, he expects Mercedes to be fighting for second with the Redbull. He's not a happy bunny at all today, maybe it's going to be an exciting season after all.

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Giblet wrote:High speed is a grip/balance scenario far more than traction under accelleration.

I would imagine the traction issues are coming out of low/medium speed corners.
Yep he was having issues coming out of the final chicane.

Vladimir
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Re: 2017 F1 Pre-season testing February 27 - March 2/ March 7-10

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Well done for Masa, Williams improve great.
I steel do not believe much in Mercedes showing, but hope that they made mistake this time with that long wheel base car.

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Re: 2017 F1 Pre-season testing February 27 - March 2/ March 7-10

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Sky Sports is so frustrating:
Tyre corrected, the Red Bull's most impressive time had been set earlier in the morning when Ricciardo produced a lap of 1:20.077 on softs - a fraction better than Mercedes' fastest time on softs in the whole of the first test.
But let's completely ignore TWO sub 1.20s on softs from Ferrari!

Doesn't mean anything but don't just ignore the facts because you're following the mandated anti-Ferrari stance all British broadcasters must adhere to...

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ferkan wrote:
proteus wrote:I will never forget last years qualifying in Australia when Ferraris led at some point and then Mercedeses actually showing their pace. The camera guy perfectly caught how Arrivabiene changed his face from happy to destroyed in few seconds when both of them overtook Ferraris by quite a margin and one of the Sky comentators saying: "Haha, and Mercedes was sandbagging the whole testing" ...or something like that. :)

I think i have may caused a heartacking pain of a Ferrari fan :lol: Sorry but i wrote the truth about what happened last year and what may happen again in this season.
Do you think professional F1 team is not aware of competitors ballpark performance? They've seen all in qualifying anyway...
I just putted it in the perspective.
If i would get the money to start my own F1 team, i would revive Arrows

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Wass85 wrote:Hamilton has stated Ferrari are the favourites as they've been the quickest so far, he expects Mercedes to be fighting for second with the Redbull. He's not a happy bunny at all today, maybe it's going to be an exciting season after all.
Here's the actual quote:
"I think Ferrari are possibly the favourites," he said. "We can't take our eyes off them. They've done such a good job at the moment and Red Bull look like they've gone quite quick as well today. So we shall see over the next days and most importantly in the next weeks. I think it's going to be close at the first race, that's for sure."
To me it all sounds pretty coy...

Further quote from LH which I think is more telling than anything else:
"We're on target in terms of the laps that we've done, the target in terms of how much mileage we're going to get, but of course with performance we are always searching for more. I'm just throwing a number maybe but I would say we are at 70, 80 per cent maybe. But I hope that we pull out the rest in time for the first race."