2017 F1 general testing thread

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WaikeCU wrote:
Big Mangalhit wrote:on f1today it appears that massa did the lap in US in autosport on softs. Anyway the speed trap for Massa just skyrocketed to 290km/h, the best so far in testing. maybe merc PU is giving full beans finally? (just turn it to 11 while still doing sustainable program or is that the quali mode rests to be seen)
It all doesn't mean anything...

You know who topped the speed trap last season at Barcelona Qualifying?

Pascal Wehrlein (341kph)
I know speed in itself doesn't mean nothing, but because it was higher than the usual top speed for the williams car, and the lap time was also higher (which excludes higher top speed cause of lower Df and lower drag) it could mean that they are testing higher engine settings now.

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OK AMuS Liveticker reports planned Battery Change now at McLaren. No Word of the PU.....
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Thunders wrote:OK AMuS Liveticker reports planned Battery Change now at McLaren. No Word of the PU.....
"Planned battery change"? How often do you hear a team doing that. The battery normally is the part the least likely to break down, and the least performance differentiator (as its performance is directly limited to how much it can store).

That might be our electrical issue. However, it is very omnious that Honda is struggling in that department as again it usually never breaks down before it has done its mileage and is being swapped for the next allocation. And McLaren is nowhere near the required mileage.
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ripper wrote:From motorsport italian version live:
12:34 Bottas ha montato le UltraSoft, ma ha ripetuto quanto fatto pochi minuti fa: ha fatto il record nel settore centrale della pista, per poi andare decisamente più piano nel primo e nel terzo.
Bottas used UltraSoft, but did the same as few minutes ago: record in middle sector and slowed down in S1 and S3
People said that about Vettel yesterday.

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turbof1 wrote:
Thunders wrote:OK AMuS Liveticker reports planned Battery Change now at McLaren. No Word of the PU.....
"Planned battery change"? How often do you hear a team doing that. The battery normally is the part the least likely to break down, and the least performance differentiator (as its performance is directly limited to how much it can store).
Might be a new battery that goes with the 2017 PU. Also might be using "Planned battery change" as cover to keep the F1 journalists and photographers from sniffing around. But we shall see in due course.
That might be our electrical issue. However, it is very omnious that Honda is struggling in that department as again it usually never breaks down before it has done its mileage and is being swapped for the next allocation. And McLaren is nowhere near the required mileage.
It could be a faulty battery or as I said above it could be a new spec battery to go with the 2017 PU.

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McLaren Honda, the new Manor.

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taperoo2k wrote:
It could be a faulty battery or as I said above it could be a new spec battery to go with the 2017 PU.
It's either one of the two as you don't plan to switch batteries after such a short mileage. If it's a new spec, they will have to put in the different PU spec as well as you said.
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namao wrote:McLaren Honda, the new Manor.
Please don`t insult Manor! :D
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GPR-A wrote:
Wass85 wrote:
BosF1 wrote:Bottas showing a bit more of Merc's hand? 1:19.3 on supersoft tyres
1:17's? These cars will be lucky to beat the 08 cars, this means the 2017 cars are slower in the corners.
Cars in 2008 were weighing 642 kilos and carried one stint fuel load as refuelling was allowed. 2017 cars weigh 720 kilos and carry race load fuel.
I'm talking about low fuel running, Massa did a 1:18.3 in testing in April 2003.

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Wass85 wrote:
GPR-A wrote:
Wass85 wrote:
1:17's? These cars will be lucky to beat the 08 cars, this means the 2017 cars are slower in the corners.
Cars in 2008 were weighing 642 kilos and carried one stint fuel load as refuelling was allowed. 2017 cars weigh 720 kilos and carry race load fuel.
I'm talking about low fuel running, Massa did a 1:18.3 in testing in April 2003.
Are you sure that was on the same track layout? Don't forget the final corner is now a chicane, it used to be a high speed corner.

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"The 2007 season saw the first of the two final sweepers replaced with a slow chicane in an effort to improve overtaking. "

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Wass85 wrote:
GPR-A wrote:
Wass85 wrote:
1:17's? These cars will be lucky to beat the 08 cars, this means the 2017 cars are slower in the corners.
Cars in 2008 were weighing 642 kilos and carried one stint fuel load as refuelling was allowed. 2017 cars weigh 720 kilos and carry race load fuel.
I'm talking about low fuel running, Massa did a 1:18.3 in testing in April 2003.
How do you know they are running low fuel currently?

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turbof1 wrote:
taperoo2k wrote:
It could be a faulty battery or as I said above it could be a new spec battery to go with the 2017 PU.
It's either one of the two as you don't plan to switch batteries after such a short mileage. If it's a new spec, they will have to put in the different PU spec as well as you said.
I hope Honda have thrown caution to the wind and are putting the new spec PU in. They need to get as much running in with it as they can before the test ends. I'll probably faint if it is the new PU and it runs with relatively few problems.

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Diesel wrote:
Wass85 wrote:
GPR-A wrote:Cars in 2008 were weighing 642 kilos and carried one stint fuel load as refuelling was allowed. 2017 cars weigh 720 kilos and carry race load fuel.
I'm talking about low fuel running, Massa did a 1:18.3 in testing in April 2003.
Are you sure that was on the same track layout? Don't forget the final corner is now a chicane, it used to be a high speed corner.

EDIT:
"The 2007 season saw the first of the two final sweepers replaced with a slow chicane in an effort to improve overtaking. "
I'm 100% certain it was on the current layout. He did the time whilst testing the 2009 slick Bridgestone tyres they were going to use for the 2009 season.

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GPR-A wrote:
Wass85 wrote:
GPR-A wrote:Cars in 2008 were weighing 642 kilos and carried one stint fuel load as refuelling was allowed. 2017 cars weigh 720 kilos and carry race load fuel.
I'm talking about low fuel running, Massa did a 1:18.3 in testing in April 2003.
How do you know they are running low fuel currently?
How do you know Massa did a low fuel run when he set that time?