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On the back of his first pole position last weekend, Mercedes driver Valtteri Bottas topped the second day of in-season testing at Sakhir. The Finn ejoyed a trouble-free day and completed a massive 143 laps.
When I said over 100% i meant in unsustainable modes, which they do run on quality and some parts of the race. Remember when merc allegadelly had a mode they could run really fast but couldn't use all the time for reliability, and with time they were using more and more of this mode. Well obviously testing is there to see how long can they use and which parts to monitor for failure etc. I really doubt any engine runs the all test on partial modes, heck I even imagine they run most time in representative modes, even if they use ballast heavy fuel etc..dren wrote:Test beds have worked for Mercedes. They obviously aren't working as well for Honda. Having my avitar, based on teams performance, is counter to me thinking teams should rely on test beds for PUs.Big Mangalhit wrote:Having your avatar makes sense you think a test bed is enough to test everything. But is quite clear it isn't you need really action on 100% pu before the changes start counting. Also I never said that test times are everything. Just at some points teams need to test a lot of the engine at 100% capacity or even overwork it. And test all the aero ideas they have got available.dren wrote:
The PUs run countless hours of testing on test beds. Teams already have a good idea of how to set-up the cars before they ever arrive to the GPs. They use simulation software heavily. It's the small tweaks that take place during practice sessions. Testing is done to validate all of the simulation and design work.
Doesn't mean they will make this all at the same time with low fuel and do a full banzai lap. but for sure they all have at some points the engine in race conditions (unless they really can't)
Why would you test an engine over 100% when it will never see that? For that matter, teams probably should test all sorts of illegal parts that they'll never use, just to see what they will do. They might as well run in testing with double the allowed fuel, too.
I don't think you understand the difference between Bridstone tires and Pirelli either. If you know then you won't be making these irrelevant comparisonsWass85 wrote:I know all that and Massa set his time in April so if he had done that run in Feb-March he would have almost certainly gone faster.GPR-A wrote:I feel you are missing a lot of basics. It's not a negative statement. The big difference between testing and race is weather. Cars get slower in summer. Just to inform, last year Mercedes was faster in qualifying than in winter testing,, considering weather impact. They sandbagged. So there is every reason to believe they are doing same now. What you see is not what the are capable of, it's far from it.Wass85 wrote:
The cars were quicker in testing last year than they were at the Grand Prix despite the updates all the teams will have had.
Outlap - 1.25.5 - 1:25.5 - 1:25.4 - 1:25.3 - 1:25.4 - 1:25.4 - 1:25.7 - 1:25.6 - 1:26.1 - 1:26.0 - Boxenstopp.godlameroso wrote:What are long runs looking like?
For sure something isn't right, that is not what I'm used to "just an off" looking like.PhillipM wrote:Initial view - although poor video so hard to tell - is it looks similar to the ERS braking issues they've suffered before, bit more fine tuning on the mapping side perhaps!
Are they woried, or just checking the competition?
10:19 Hamilton finally pits after a very long ultra-soft run – 20 laps from out to in! Impressively, his pace held up. It dropped by just over a second from beginning to end.
