2017 F1 general testing thread

[dans79]

I see how you conveniently ignore the Spanish GP pole times. Knock 3 seconds off the pole set by Hamilton last year and we have a 1:19.00. That does make them the FASTEST CARS EVER AROUND CATALUNYA IN A RACE WEEKEND.

actually its not.

In it's current configuration Massa holds the fastest time of 1:18.339 in 2008 testing.

I think Alonso has the fastest time ever in 2006 of 1:14.648.

2006 was in the old pre-chicane layout, and testing times aren't comparable to times on a race weekend, so Wass85's point stands.

Re-read my post, Massa's time is from 2008, after the chicane was added.

[dans79]

If you read my post I stated in a race weekend.

Then your entire argument is invalid, because you shouldn't be comparing these 2017 testing times to 2016 race times.

[PlatinumZealot]

Vettel already did 5g's at the track in 2010. So the Aero and tyres are still held back by the weight of the 2017 cars.

[Wass85]

If you read my post I stated in a race weekend.

Then your entire argument is invalid, because you shouldn't be comparing these 2017 testing times to 2016 race times.

So that goes to my other point. If you say these cars are meant to be 3 seconds faster than the 2015 cars then the pole this year should only be 3 tenths faster than Hamilton's pole time last year?

[Wass85]

Vettel already did 5g's at the track in 2010. So the Aero and tyres are still held back by the weight of the 2017 cars.

Yep, we won't be hitting record level corner speeds or G- loads this year.

[MrNoo]

If you read my post I stated in a race weekend.

Then your entire argument is invalid, because you shouldn't be comparing these 2017 testing times to 2016 race times.

So that goes to my other point. If you say these cars are meant to be 3 seconds faster than the 2015 cars then the pole this year should only be 3 tenths faster than Hamilton's pole time last year?

Start a different thread on "faster or not" please, I've just read 2 pages of nonsense when last time I looked this is the 2017 Pre Season Testing thread and as such one would hope to read about pre season testing.

[popovic94]

Then your entire argument is invalid, because you shouldn't be comparing these 2017 testing times to 2016 race times.

So that goes to my other point. If you say these cars are meant to be 3 seconds faster than the 2015 cars then the pole this year should only be 3 tenths faster than Hamilton's pole time last year?

Start a different thread on "faster or not" please, I've just read 2 pages of nonsense when last time I looked this is the 2017 Pre Season Testing thread and as such one would hope to read about pre season testing.

+1

[aral]

Whereas comparing times at previous tests / races etc is interesting, all these are irrelevant as track has changed, surface has changed, temperatures will be different , even air pressure could be different. There is no point in clogging the thread up with personal disputes, each claiming to be right. So please, no more disputes as to whom or when the fastest time has been set. It is basically irrelevant. Only the race results are relevant.

[Wass85]

The onboard view from Bottas' 1:19.3 lap, he's looking on it I'll give him that.

https://youtu.be/n0_4bmK5v08

[Restomaniac]

The onboard view from Bottas' 1:19.3 lap, he's looking on it I'll give him that.

https://youtu.be/n0_4bmK5v08

That car is supposed to be all over the place?

Oh my days. It looks glued down.

Oh and he crossed to start the lap at around 0.08 seconds and crossed again to finish at around 1.28 so that is around an 1.20 lap.

[mrluke]

Why would you test an engine over 100% when it will never see that? For that matter, teams probably should test all sorts of illegal parts that they'll never use, just to see what they will do. They might as well run in testing with double the allowed fuel, too.

How do you know where the limit is if you don't push it?

You might find that it can cope with being at 105% and still last a race distance, or you might find you can get away with pushing it to 110% as long as its only a short duration.

Until you put the engine in the car and run it through the full loads it actually sees on track then you dont know whether it will work. You can have a very good guess but you don't know.

The teams put an awful lot of emphasis on maximising testing considering your view that its not really required.

[dren]

Wouldn't the max a PU can do be 100%?

[kooleracer]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCY-boRmR68

Just compare the engine tone between 2017 and 2016. It clear that Bottas engine isn't turned up to max. You can easily hear the difference between a Mercedes engine on maximum attack and the 2017. I'm sure that Mercedes can easily find 1-1.3 sec when they drain the fuel and turn up the engine. I think a 1.18 is the target lap time for this test.

[r.t.1.n]

The onboard view from Bottas' 1:19.3 lap, he's looking on it I'll give him that.

https://youtu.be/n0_4bmK5v08

That car is supposed to be all over the place?

Oh my days. It looks glued down.

Oh and he crossed to start the lap at around 0.08 seconds and crossed again to finish at around 1.28 so that is around an 1.20 lap.

test 1 probably fake glue
Second test seems like they bring their regular glue

[iotar__]

The onboard view from Bottas' 1:19.3 lap, he's looking on it I'll give him that.

https://youtu.be/n0_4bmK5v08

That car is supposed to be all over the place?

Oh my days. It looks glued down.

They fixed their problems. Is it developed though? In '17 'detailed' is the new "glued to the track". BTW how can Williams be quick when it was labelled basic looking ?

Alonso changed his mind: http://www.crash.net/f1/news/240676/1/a ... oblem.html
- He has no one but himself to blame for stupid decision of leaving Ferrari. He should shut up, collect his 30 million and drive whatever car he gets.
- Afters seasons of "that was the best decision" and 'only McLaren can beat Merc" he finally woke up. Boo hoo, there are two cars that can compete with Merc and you were in one of them.
- Without Honda's money McL couldn't afford your pay-check and all the engineers responsible for chassis side.