On the back of his first pole position last weekend, Mercedes driver Valtteri Bottas topped the second day of in-season testing at Sakhir. The Finn ejoyed a trouble-free day and completed a massive 143 laps.
...because they will probably be breaking down on every 1st flying lap they try and do, so DNQ via NO TIME set...max_speed wrote:i am damn sure mclaren wont be able to race in melbourne because of 107% quali rule.
They should go softer in both Spain and Azerbaijan, the harder tire will just be a burden to the teams on those GPs.Ray Okay wrote:https://d2snyq93qb0udd.cloudfront.net/p ... b2-eng.jpg
is it me or is pirelli gone real conesrvative again? Not seeing much running on hard tire in barcelona
Fair point - although I think best time in 2016 was 1:22.765. But still slower.Restomaniac wrote:I don't think that is right is it?f1316 wrote:Yeah but they usually go slower in quali than they did in testing, even though they weren't fully pushing with minimum fuel in testing - it depends on other factors (weather/tyres etc.)Restomaniac wrote:I think that kind of answered my question. A 1m17 when they come back is very achivable.
Still, I don't disagree that someone could probably do a 1m17 TODAY if they wanted to. But I don't think they do want to.
The best time from 2016 Testing on the Soft was Kimi with a 1:23.009. Hamilton qualified with a 1:22.000 on Soft.
The fly in that ointment is that for some reason they wont be using the SS in Spain.
bucker wrote:If we make quick summary. Fastest time during preseason testing in 2016 was 1:22.765. At the moment fastest time is 1:18.634, which means that at the moment cars are 4.131 s quicker (sandbagging or not). When comparing times from 2016 to 2004 monsters, we can see, that already this year lots of times cars and drivers were quicker. This year all records will be broken and we can say that we have gladiators behind the wheels. F1 has never been so quick before than what we will be seeing this year.
Hungarian GP:
Michael Schumacher 1:19.146 (2004)
Nico Rosberg 1:19.965 (2016)
Italian GP:
Rubens Barrichello 1:20.089 (2004)
Lewis Hamilton 1:21.135 (2016)
Malaysian GP:
Michael Schumacher 1:33.074 (2004)
Lewis Hamilton 1:32.850 (2016)
Japan GP
Michael Schumacher 1:33.542 (2004)
Nico Rosberg 1:30.647 (2016)
Brazilian GP
Rubens Barrichello 1:10.646 (2004)
Lewis Hamilton 1:10.736 (2016)
Bahrain GP
Michael Schumacher 1:30.139 (2004)
Lewis Hamilton 1:29.493 (2016)
Australian GP
Michael Schumacher 1:24.408 (2004)
Lewis Hamilton 1:23.837 (2016)
107% rule works on the potential basis. Not reliability. They'll look the sector times and GPS data, and if they see they could be within 107% in normal circumstances during the weekend, they'll be allowed to race for sure. So now worries on that front.Gerhardsa wrote:...because they will probably be breaking down on every 1st flying lap they try and do, so DNQ via NO TIME set...max_speed wrote:i am damn sure mclaren wont be able to race in melbourne because of 107% quali rule.
I really feel for the guys in the team... for the Honda guys...not so much!
I doubt any records will be broken actually, lap records only count during a race. I get what you're trying to say though, we are bound to see the fastest outright lap times at certain circuits!bucker wrote:This year all records will be broken and we can say that we have gladiators behind the wheels. F1 has never been so quick before than what we will be seeing this year.
Indeed.f1316 wrote:Fair point - although I think best time in 2016 was 1:22.765. But still slower.Restomaniac wrote:I don't think that is right is it?f1316 wrote:
Yeah but they usually go slower in quali than they did in testing, even though they weren't fully pushing with minimum fuel in testing - it depends on other factors (weather/tyres etc.)
Still, I don't disagree that someone could probably do a 1m17 TODAY if they wanted to. But I don't think they do want to.
The best time from 2016 Testing on the Soft was Kimi with a 1:23.009. Hamilton qualified with a 1:22.000 on Soft.
The fly in that ointment is that for some reason they wont be using the SS in Spain.
I did say *usually* though - take 2015: Nico did 1m 22.792s in testing but pole was 1:24.681; I think that's the usually pattern.
But this season may be unusual given expected fast rate of development.
Nope, that's the only times they broke down. Despite all the PU issues, they've always made it back to the pits. Like I said, the hype surrounding McLaren right now are magnifying the issues, making them seem worse than they actually are. I'm not saying it's not bad, because it is. I still reckon it's gremlins rather than fundamental problems.Gerhardsa wrote:Over the course of the Testing weeks, McLaren have broken down more times than that I am sure
Yes, but this doesn't look that good (the number of laps teams have done during the tests):Xero wrote:Nope, that's the only times they broke down. Despite all the PU issues, they've always made it back to the pits. Like I said, the hype surrounding McLaren right now are magnifying the issues, making them seem worse than they actually are. I'm not saying it's not bad, because it is. I still reckon it's gremlins rather than fundamental problems.Gerhardsa wrote:Over the course of the Testing weeks, McLaren have broken down more times than that I am sure
Absolutely, the mileage has been horrendous. My point was simply to suggest that McLaren breaking down as being disruptive to others is ridiculous.Morteza wrote: Yes, but this doesn't look that good (the number of laps teams have done during the tests):
Mercedes: 1114
Ferrari: 864
Sauber: 729
Williams: 715
Force India: 685
Haas: 662
Red Bull: 625
Renault: 534
Toro Rosso: 469
McLaren: 399
Of course! It's not like they're doing it on purpose. I'm sure all members here would like to see a trouble-free session for McLaren-Honda, but that's not happening and they're all frustrated.Xero wrote:Absolutely, the mileage has been horrendous. My point was simply to suggest that McLaren breaking down as being disruptive to others is ridiculous.Morteza wrote: Yes, but this doesn't look that good (the number of laps teams have done during the tests):
Mercedes: 1114
Ferrari: 864
Sauber: 729
Williams: 715
Force India: 685
Haas: 662
Red Bull: 625
Renault: 534
Toro Rosso: 469
McLaren: 399
Just annoying to see the once technical and interesting chat of this forum slowly being replaced with nonsense and trolling.
