Scuderia Ferrari SF70H

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Gui59 wrote:Even with a larger dissipator at the end of the pipes?
Nowhere near. They don't blow the floor with the sidepods and look at the amount of heat rejected there.

EBD wasn't about heat, it was about the energy/velocity of the exhaust gases.

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I through EDB used hot air to seal the sides of the diffuser

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Gui59 wrote:I through EDB used hot air to seal the sides of the diffuser
It was more about the exhaust gasses being very high velocity rather than simply hot. Sidepod or heat exchanger flow cannot be used to replicate that effect.

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With one day of testing to go, the only new aero elements we know of that were not on the car at launch but seen in testing are:

1) the spoon wing which was run one afternoon during the first week and not seen again
2) the three element monkey seat on the car one day earlier this week

So as some of us predicted, the front wing, rear wing, floor, diffuser and turning vanes were not 'basic launch parts'. I'm sure the aero team is working around the clock back in Italy, and may produce a few minor updates that will be seen in Melbourne. But the car shown on launch day will be very similar to the first race spec.

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f300v10 wrote:With one day of testing to go, the only new aero elements we know of that were not on the car at launch but seen in testing are:

1) the spoon wing which was run one afternoon during the first week and not seen again
2) the three element monkey seat on the car one day earlier this week

So as some of us predicted, the front wing, rear wing, floor, diffuser and turning vanes were not 'basic launch parts'. I'm sure the aero team is working around the clock back in Italy, and may produce a few minor updates that will be seen in Melbourne. But the car shown on launch day will be very similar to the first race spec.
I think in general we have seen far less substantial upgrades in pre-season testing so far then many expected. I think most teams are still at the stage where they very much focus on understanding what they have.

Also teams are known to use pre-season testing to prepare and do setup work for the first couple of races. The spoon wing could be aimed for use in China to aid top speed on the back straight.

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Also some minor changes in the winglets extravaganza at the sides of the diffuser (right = previous version). Well, not 100% sure about the highest detail, but the lowest one is definitely new.

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THRAK wrote:Also some minor changes in the winglets extravaganza at the sides of the diffuser (right = previous version). Well, not 100% sure about the highest detail, but the lowest one is definitely new.

http://i65.tinypic.com/2s8ql3b.png
Looks like the exact same picture of the exact same thing... go through it winglet by winglet and i think you will agree.

edit: i stand corrected i see the different shape of the lower winglet

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f300v10 wrote:So as some of us predicted, the front wing, rear wing, floor, diffuser and turning vanes were not 'basic launch parts'. I'm sure the aero team is working around the clock back in Italy, and may produce a few minor updates that will be seen in Melbourne. But the car shown on launch day will be very similar to the first race spec.
With testing reduced to only 2x4 days, I believe many teams choose to keep all the good stuff for first race. Red Bull used to show true spec parts on last two or even the very last day of testing, back when it was 3x4 days. Since many teams still talk of Barcelona race as a place for "radical" new parts (not just small changes in geometry), I'd expect them to show up with some new front and rear wings with minor changes until that race, like you say.
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Vanja #66 wrote:
f300v10 wrote:So as some of us predicted, the front wing, rear wing, floor, diffuser and turning vanes were not 'basic launch parts'. I'm sure the aero team is working around the clock back in Italy, and may produce a few minor updates that will be seen in Melbourne. But the car shown on launch day will be very similar to the first race spec.
With testing reduced to only 2x4 days, I believe many teams choose to keep all the good stuff for first race. Red Bull used to show true spec parts on last two or even the very last day of testing, back when it was 3x4 days. Since many teams still talk of Barcelona race as a place for "radical" new parts (not just small changes in geometry), I'd expect them to show up with some new front and rear wings with minor changes until that race, like you say.
But think about 2016 cars - particularly the Red - and you'd be hard pressed to see a lot of changes from the start of the season to the end. The PU was improved massively and, almost certainly, so was the suspension; these translated to big performance gains but to the naked eye there wasn't a lot different.

Maybe the same will be true this year? I mean, there'll be tweaks and changes in terms of barge boards, but if there big changes to how the flow was managed, they'd not want to introduce these at the end of testing (imo). They need to know the platform is a solid foundation - even if it's only 2x4 testing days, it's a lot better than 3x1hr practice sessions!

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More confirmation of different diffuser winglet configurations being tested:

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I believe the first set of diffuser winglets are a "rough draft" if you will, where the latest versions are closer to the finalized design. I only say this because the first set of winglets looks a little rough compared to the newer ones. I'm sure they'll be playing with this area of the car all year.
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i have dyslexia and english is not my native language. please be gentle.

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Please note that a number of posts have been removed. Once again, the thread was veering off topic with speculative and regurgitated comments being posted. Please stick to actual facts about the SF70H and leave speculation on the team thread.
Thanks