2017 Mclaren F1 Team - Honda

[bauc]

Interesting comparison between ALO & VAN driving styles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5pq4o_vxWs

[Sonador]

Interesting comparison between ALO & VAN driving styles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5pq4o_vxWs

In the comparison Alonso is on a quick lap, and Vandoorne is full of fuel??
Or is he that slow compared to Alonso?

On the other hand everybody is slow compared to Alonso, only Hamilton is quicker i think.

[godlameroso]

Let's see, you can't say who's faster until they go all out in Q1.

[ollandos]

high possible wet fp3 and qual. ....With God On Our Side [-o< [-o< [-o< [-o<

[GoranF1]

high possible wet fp3 and qual. ....With God On Our Side [-o< [-o< [-o< [-o<

And Alonso behind the wheel....

[sasa.nikolic]

With all electrical problems they had I am not sure rain would be good for them ... could be lot of shocks

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[PlatinumZealot]

Interesting comparison between ALO & VAN driving styles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5pq4o_vxWs

Vandoorne obviously taking it easy. Braking distances are enough to see the big difference.

[Singabule]

Alo seems not happy, but car look planted but little bit understeer. Upshift is smoother, but still no power. 3 sec off pace, are honda will increase power a bit in qualy? P11-P13 still possible

[GoranF1]

The car is 3 secs off pace, it improved 0.7 secs from last years AUS quali, Mercedes and Ferrari improved 2 secs.
Disaster.

Haas is 1.4 sec faster, Williams, FI, Renault are all whitin 1 sec....even whit 100hp weaker engine they are whitin 1 sec

[McL-H]

The car is 3 secs off pace, it improved 0.7 secs from last years AUS quali, Mercedes and Ferrari improved 2 secs.
Disaster.

Haas is 1.4 sec faster, Williams, FI, Renault are all whitin 1 sec....even whit 100hp weaker engine they are whitin 1 sec

Still I'm very positive. It's obvious they are still having issues with the car, but the deficit to the midfield isn't that huge. We should not forget McLaren is still testing basically, they are miles behind on data and thus cannot extract everything from the car. Possibly the engine is detuned as well.

If Honda can have its issues fixed before the Summer break, McLaren could be in the mix again, and fight for P4 in the WCC. Close the gap a bit to the top 3 during the season, to fight them next year.

Forget about the last 2 seasons. Remember 2009! [-o<

[Goran2812]

Wow, just imagine if they didn't have problems... they would be right in the mix with mercedes and ferrari... hmmmmm

[McL-H]

Wow, just imagine if they didn't have problems... they would be right in the mix with mercedes and ferrari... hmmmmm

That's not what I said.

[mwillems]

The situation is a lot better than many on here predicted, for pace and for reliability.
We know that they are changing gear at sub optimal revs. It's an assumption but one with some factual weight (One third running of Merc) , that the mappings and setup are behind the other cars too. Not to mention that on Alonso's fastest lap (I believe) he reported coming off the final Kerb and having no power.

We don't know if the new mappings have compromised performance, and we don't know if they were still running detuned, despite turning up the power for qualy.

To me this suggests there is a lot of performance to be found in reliability updates alone. I'm positive for the season ahead. Depending on how quickly Honda can push out their updates. That said, to be where we need to be this season, we need to find 1.6 seconds minimum, I think.

[Alonso Fan]

They still have that vibration problem on upshifts. It's clear and loud on the onboard footage. I hope also that vandoorne is at least as fast as button was and is a bit closer to Alonso in the coming races.

On a positive note, at least it didn't blow up

[JonoNic]

They still have that vibration problem on upshifts. It's clear and loud on the onboard footage. I hope also that vandoorne is at least as fast as button was and is a bit closer to Alonso in the coming races.

On a positive note, at least it didn't blow up

A detuned engine that blows up would be very bad...I hope these prolonged vibrations on upshift does not affect the driver's sight too much in the race.