2017 Chinese Grand Prix - Shanghai 07-09 April

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isullivan wrote:
30 Mar 2017, 09:41
I think it will be a Mercedes 1-2 qualifying and race and p3 for Ferrari.
I think that Ferrari can battle for the victory if the temperaturas are not very low. If they are, Mercedes should have an advantage.

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Vasconia wrote:
30 Mar 2017, 10:14
isullivan wrote:
30 Mar 2017, 09:41
I think it will be a Mercedes 1-2 qualifying and race and p3 for Ferrari.
I think that Ferrari can battle for the victory if the temperaturas are not very low. If they are, Mercedes should have an advantage.
Why should have Mercedes benefits from lower temperatures?
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Mr.G wrote:
30 Mar 2017, 10:21
Vasconia wrote:
30 Mar 2017, 10:14
isullivan wrote:
30 Mar 2017, 09:41
I think it will be a Mercedes 1-2 qualifying and race and p3 for Ferrari.
I think that Ferrari can battle for the victory if the temperaturas are not very low. If they are, Mercedes should have an advantage.
Why should have Mercedes benefits from lower temperatures?
Their performance(use of the tyres) with colder temperatures haven been usually quite good while traditionally Ferrari has had more problems to make their tyres work. I guess they will be fast as well but perhaps the difference with Mercedes could be greater.

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ferrari will be stronger than australia

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can we make race topics that starts with first post and all information about circuit and other intro stuff? It looks much tidier

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Vasconia wrote:
30 Mar 2017, 10:34
Mr.G wrote:
30 Mar 2017, 10:21
Vasconia wrote:
30 Mar 2017, 10:14


I think that Ferrari can battle for the victory if the temperaturas are not very low. If they are, Mercedes should have an advantage.
Why should have Mercedes benefits from lower temperatures?
Their performance(use of the tyres) with colder temperatures haven been usually quite good while traditionally Ferrari has had more problems to make their tyres work. I guess they will be fast as well but perhaps the difference with Mercedes could be greater.
Well that's past, now the cars and tyres ar new... Actually in Barcelona during testing it looks like Ferrari is quite good on the harder compounds...
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roon wrote:
30 Mar 2017, 00:53
godlameroso wrote:
30 Mar 2017, 00:31
How deep into turn one before they have to break?
Honda specifically?
Ahahah! Underrated comment :D :D

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Mr.G wrote:
30 Mar 2017, 11:42
Vasconia wrote:
30 Mar 2017, 10:34
Mr.G wrote:
30 Mar 2017, 10:21

Why should have Mercedes benefits from lower temperatures?
Their performance(use of the tyres) with colder temperatures haven been usually quite good while traditionally Ferrari has had more problems to make their tyres work. I guess they will be fast as well but perhaps the difference with Mercedes could be greater.
Well that's past, now the cars and tyres ar new... Actually in Barcelona during testing it looks like Ferrari is quite good on the harder compounds...
Yes, hard to draw conclusions from previous years:
- new aero, dimensions, weight, suspension, engines number etc.
- new tyres
- new fuel rules
- early stage, especially with tyres (safe bet they will make them last longer), big aero development year, at least China has some corners :) so it should be more representative.

- Red Bull were supposed to blow Ferrari away and now they are at excuses making stage and dragging engine into every headline. I don't understand how Renault can play along with it and people buy their absurd time lines. As if they are waiting for Canada to make chassis better instead of doing it for Australia.

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Congratulations to Ferrari for winning the last race. If that kind of form is any indication for China, I expect them to be much stronger...may be even the fastest package here. Last year, the first corner chaos largely scuppered Ferrari's chances. Kimi was on form here, and the car was on par with the Mercedes in sector 1 & 2 in qualifying. Race pace was also on a par with Mercedes, with the Ferrari PU running conservatively for reliability last year, I recall. I would love it if Merc turn up here trying to respond to their defeat in Australia and get soundly beaten. Que, Toto smashing up another table! Make it happen Ferrari! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Can´t wait to see them attack turn 1 in these cars. Getting goose-bumps just thinking about it.
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Should be great!

I actually wouldn't be surprised to still see Hamilton on pole because I think he's extremely one-lap quick here; but I think the gap to Vettel will be smaller in quali and another close race that I suspect Vettel will win again.

Absolute gut guesswork though, of course.

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Rain on Friday, cold on Saturday, and rain on Sunday, should be fun. More specifically light rain on Friday morning, cloudy on Saturday, and good chance of rain for the race on Sunday ~60%
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Rain will completely shuffle the field. Very curious for next weekend. excited too!

Let's hope Alonso will plant that Mclaren on p10 or p9 in the rain, and perhaps Max will show some fun.
Lewis is also notoriously strong in the Rain, i think Vettel will have more trouble.

My prediction:

Qually

P1 ) Bottas
P2 ) Hamilton
P3 ) Vettel
P4 ) Ricciardo
P5 ) Raikkonen
P6 ) Verstappen

Race

P1 ) Hamilton
P2 ) Vettel
P3 ) Bottas
P4 ) Verstappen
P5 ) Raikkonen
P6 ) Ricciardo
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while also sending off 4 Hamilton players to make it more interesting"

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Manoah2u wrote:
30 Mar 2017, 21:04
Rain will completely shuffle the field.
Well, that has yet to been seen. Going by the first race, great drivers were out-performing average drivers by quite a large extent already in the dry. A wet session might not change much about the order anymore. Also the traditionally underpowered cars such as the RB and the Mclaren don't look to have any grip advantage over their rivals.

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It's gonna be tough on straight lines for Sauber and McLaren, you've got 1,3Km between P13 and P14 after you need pooower between P16 and P1, and to finish with the smaller one P10 to P11 :

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