2017 Chinese Grand Prix - Shanghai 07-09 April

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JonoNic wrote:
07 Apr 2017, 09:52
I know it's still a long way off, but if qualifying can't take place then will they use the finishing order of Australia for Sunday's start?
They could use FP1 times. That would be one hell of a grid

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One of the contributors to processional racing on Sunday is Friday's data collection and subsequent engineering analysis. Today's loss may be a bonus.
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F1NAC wrote:
07 Apr 2017, 10:07
JonoNic wrote:
07 Apr 2017, 09:52
I know it's still a long way off, but if qualifying can't take place then will they use the finishing order of Australia for Sunday's start?
They could use FP1 times. That would be one hell of a grid

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8x9TkxXcAAQd_g.jpg
+1. Too good to happen but it would be awesome!!!

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JonoNic wrote:
07 Apr 2017, 10:01
Vasconia wrote:
JonoNic wrote:
07 Apr 2017, 09:52
I know it's still a long way off, but if qualifying can't take place then will they use the finishing order of Australia for Sunday's start?
Could we have a Sunday morning qualy?
Rain predicted for Sunday morning which clears in the afternoon

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A WET qualy and a wet/semi-wet race. This would be an epic Sunday1

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henry wrote:
07 Apr 2017, 10:30
One of the contributors to processional racing on Sunday is Friday's data collection and subsequent engineering analysis. Today's loss may be a bonus.
Indeed. On one hand, it will produce an exciting race filled with errors, risk-takers and gambles... on the other, it will most likely not satisfy those that wanted a clean race (and preparation) to gauge the relative performance of the teams on an actual race track.

We will be heading into Bahrain with not much of an idea between how Mercedes and Ferrari compare I feel (and how much closer RedBull might be, considering they think they have sorted out some chassis issues).
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F1 teams to discuss moving Chinese GP to Saturday

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-t ... ay-890553/
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I wouldn't be surprised if nothing changes due to bureaucracy.

Easy solution would be to address the traffic route to the nearest hospital on Sunday (by blocking it during the race). I however can't see teams agreeing unanimously to the race being held on Saturday, since that would mean giving up FP3 which might be more disadvantageous to some than others. No way to fit FP3, QF and the race all on the same day, so something will have to give.

I could also see F1/FOM take the position that it's ultimately China's problem. If they are not prepared enough to fulfill the requirements of the race under such conditions (i.e. like making sure the safety concerns can be addressed), then that is their problem...
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bauc wrote:
07 Apr 2017, 10:59
F1 teams to discuss moving Chinese GP to Saturday

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-t ... ay-890553/
I hope it doesn´t happen. This would make F1 a joke.

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Would still be better than cancelling the race on sunday bc of bad weather...

anyways I am excited about the race! Little FP normally guarantees an exciting race.

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I don't get all the crying about FP and possibly the race being cancelled?!

F1 is a global phenomenon but it's still a tiny fraction of what goes on every day. It isn't important or powerful enough to shut down a significant portion of a major city in order to create a 38km emergency route, and we certainly shouldn't be angry about that!

This is about driver safety at the end of the day, and we'd all be jumping down the FIA's throats if they allowed the cars to go out in dangerous conditions and a major injury or death occurred because there was no available medical support.

Remember that in Suzuka 2014 the medical helicopter wasn't available due to the weather conditions. In that situation there was an alternative 15km route and it took 32 minutes to get Jules to the hospital. Apparently this made no difference to his condition (and going via helicopter wouldn't have saved him) but imagine it happening in Shanghai where the journey could take over an hour by road-ambulance. It could be the difference between life or death.

This is why they don't take risks and this is why we shouldn't complain. It's not us who'd be putting our lives on the line.

Lastly; if they manage to agree to race on Saturday and actually make it happen it'll be a huge step forward in terms of governance, and will be indicative of Liberty's ability to effect change. Plus it means we'll actually get a race... I don't care if I have to watch it on Sunday morning in it's original time slot after it has happened.
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F1NAC wrote:
07 Apr 2017, 10:07
JonoNic wrote:
07 Apr 2017, 09:52
I know it's still a long way off, but if qualifying can't take place then will they use the finishing order of Australia for Sunday's start?
They could use FP1 times. That would be one hell of a grid

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8x9TkxXcAAQd_g.jpg
Can we open an offical request for this so we all fans around the world can sign it and force FIA to do it? :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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SparkyAMG wrote:
07 Apr 2017, 11:44
F1 is a global phenomenon but it it's still a tiny fraction of what goes on every day. It isn't important or powerful enough to shut down a significant portion of a major city in order to create a 38km emergency route, and we certainly shouldn't be angry about that!
It isn't? You might want to read this article by forbes then.

In there, it is estimated that to host an F1 race, it costs > 40 million. That is substantial. But still, many countries are interested in hosting such an event, because it enhances their image. Just look at what Singapore did and how it propelled their image. Huge costs yes, but it has also proven to be quite an investment that has enhanced the image which in turn has brought more business to the country overall. It's hard to measures what the benefits are.

Staging a race and then not having it go through because a medical helicopter can't land at the designated hospital is not good when you are spending that amount of money to host the race in the first place. How much would it cost to close down the local route to the nearest hospital in comparison?
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Vasconia wrote:
07 Apr 2017, 11:32
bauc wrote:
07 Apr 2017, 10:59
F1 teams to discuss moving Chinese GP to Saturday

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-t ... ay-890553/
I hope it doesn´t happen. This would make F1 a joke.
Well, last time some one died
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