Hamilton emerged on pole position after an intense final battle for the top spot. He marginally pipped Vettel by 0.051. Bottas who throughout qualifying looked to be a contender for the pole, had to settle for third, in front of Raikkonen.
I can't remember a race in the past few years that drivers just are out of breath. That's good, like Kvyat have told the Buxton in the post race interview that F1 started to feel like a sport.Restomaniac wrote: ↑15 May 2017, 00:02After watching the race a second time. I can never remember so many drivers saying 'leave me alone' or words to that effect whilst sounding out of breath in a race before.
Bernie probably would have made sure they showed the kid crying another half dozen times!
Back when Roscoe was a few pounds lighter. Hahaflynfrog wrote: ↑15 May 2017, 01:29I agree SectorOne I am really enjoying this season. I think the removal of DRS would make this perfect. We could have watched HAM and VET battle it out for a few more laps. I liked the Sky commentators comments something to the effect it sounds like he has Roscoe in the car with him. These guys are working for it.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/05/ ... 06x423.jpg
did you get hired by Merc or something?PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑15 May 2017, 01:32
Mechanical grip and engine power. We still have that advantage. But Ferrari has better downforce and tyre management. We should have the advantage in Monaco.
Better tyre management? Remind me which car did over 30 laps on soft tyres today and which car had far better long run pace in FP1, FP2 & FP3?PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑15 May 2017, 01:32Great race! The win was in doubt up to the VSC but Hamilton always seems to win the sloggers somehow.
I am still a little unsatisfied at the pace of The mercedes. While it could follow much closer with these new upgrades - which i am quite pleased about - the Ferrari is still a touch faster. Hamilton said so many times that he just couldn't match the pace of the Ferrari. If it weren't for the little crumbs of luck that fell his way Hamilton would simply NOT have won this race. Don't get me wrong his pace put him in the position to capitalize on said bits of luck.. but it was all too clear that Ferrari still have the upper hand in the race.
Mechanical grip and engine power. We still have that advantage. But Ferrari has better downforce and tyre management. We should have the advantage in Monaco.
We didnt get to see the full extent of ferrari becuase of tyre differential and the forced strategy. But you could tell by Hamilton having overheating tyres that if he had a straight fight with Vet he would have lost.Restomaniac wrote: ↑15 May 2017, 01:57Better tyre management? Remind me which car did over 30 laps on soft tyres today and which car had far better long run pace in FP1, FP2 & FP3?
That is f****** amazing analysis. Great graphic work of the comparison.PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑15 May 2017, 03:05I want to bring the attentio of you all to this qualifying analysis if not posted already. What does it say about the engine power, traction and relative low med high speeds of the cars?
https://streamable.com/nvsmo
The ferrari seemed to have better top end acceleration and downforce. Amazing thru the high speed corners and the wider lines that Vettel could take.
Really, the Ferrari was faster here and the pole was vettels but he screwed up the exit chicane as he said. What i am excited about is Mercedes low speed performance for Monaco.
The rule says that u need to run two different compounds at least 1 RACING lap. Safety car or Virtual SC Period won't count as a racing lap. Just like u can't take a penalty during a SC or VSCAnotherAlex wrote: ↑14 May 2017, 22:56The one trick Ferrari missed, which only occurred to me long after the race had finished, is that they should have pitted Vettel for mediums as soon as the VSC was called, then brought him in again on the next lap for softs.
People were saying before the race that you'd want to be on the medium tyres for as short a stint as possible and it's fair to say they were right.
Otherwise, the loss of Raikkonen following the collision with Bottas gave Mercedes a significant tactical advantage that Ferrari weren't able to counter.
