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I think that the biggest issue for MB and RB is the removal of their hydraulic suspension. Ferrari didn't pay attention in the area even from the FRIC days and they paid the price dearly. At least they were smart enough to ban them.
Well...this is difficult. I see this in my job: On one hand the driver is no engineer and they will not go through data. But on the other hand the engineers in the factory will talk freely and will be happy to talk. And every word of this is gold.Vasconia wrote: ↑31 May 2017, 08:41We can´t deny the fact that Vettel is tremendously profesional. =D> =D> =D>giantfan10 wrote: ↑31 May 2017, 01:08JamesallenonF1 claims that Mercedes were complacent and assumed they would run away with the 2017 title too by sending Wehrlein to test the 2017 tires.
He also claims the Vettel visited the pirelli manufacturing planton more than one occasion to see how the tires were manufactered. He cites all of the above as a decided advantage for Ferrari because he claims that all the information that Vettel gathered was key in the design process for the SF-70H... visiting the factory was not illegal and open to any driver... only vettel chose to go....
But, does it make such a different? I mean, I don´t know how deep is Vettel´s technical knowledge but its strange that he could gather so much essential information from only a single visit to a factory.
Vettel could have recorded what they said on a device. The thing is that he was there to provide the feedback.basti313 wrote:Well...this is difficult. I see this in my job: On one hand the driver is no engineer and they will not go through data. But on the other hand the engineers in the factory will talk freely and will be happy to talk. And every word of this is gold.Vasconia wrote: ↑31 May 2017, 08:41We can´t deny the fact that Vettel is tremendously profesional. =D> =D> =D>giantfan10 wrote: ↑31 May 2017, 01:08JamesallenonF1 claims that Mercedes were complacent and assumed they would run away with the 2017 title too by sending Wehrlein to test the 2017 tires.
He also claims the Vettel visited the pirelli manufacturing planton more than one occasion to see how the tires were manufactered. He cites all of the above as a decided advantage for Ferrari because he claims that all the information that Vettel gathered was key in the design process for the SF-70H... visiting the factory was not illegal and open to any driver... only vettel chose to go....
But, does it make such a different? I mean, I don´t know how deep is Vettel´s technical knowledge but its strange that he could gather so much essential information from only a single visit to a factory.
So I would assume, that Vet surely has taken some info to his engineers. Even if it is just an easy thing like the downforce levels of the mule cars and how the Pirelli engineers expected the real 2017 values to be similar, higher or much higher. Or which way they go in regard to the grip and durability...more or less is already a good info for an engineer.
Clearly the way they're going through component they followed the it's easier to make a fast car reliable than it is to make a reliable car fast mantra of racing. There's more here than simply what's visible on the surface. We had the FiA clarify the use of oil in the cylinder chamber as additional combustible fluid but they also added the line about adding any other ingredient to the oil that could be used to increase it's combustibility. Ted's post qualifying notebook here touches on it and apparently gives some insight as to what happened behind the scenes to have the FiA put out that reminder.