I think that may be the ulterior motive behind the reccomendation...NickT wrote:Well that really would upset the Status Quo and the top teams really would start to push for rules that allowed overtaking
Chris
I think that may be the ulterior motive behind the reccomendation...NickT wrote:Well that really would upset the Status Quo and the top teams really would start to push for rules that allowed overtaking
Honestly, had this suggestiondumrick wrote:Patrick Head suggests the starting grid to be defined according to championship position, in reversed order. Something that wouldn't take any tech regulations changes, would be straightforward to understand, would balance the field, would force drivers to try harder to climb up the field and could provide some interesting tactics from the teams, whose position wouldn't be anymore correlated with their speed but could give radically different agendas to different teams (nowadays, the last qualifiers aren't planning their strategy to win, naturally, so everyone follows the simulator's "optimal" strategy with some tweaks...).
Aren't you trying to adapt too much? I guess I would be happy simply with this reverse grids into place, same points system and no qualifying whatsoever. Eventually, a broader scope of point allocation, to allow a "finer" sorting of the championship positions, but that would be nothing radical, other series reward points further down the finishing positions, and that would be it.Conceptual wrote:What if the Constructors points were only awarded for qualifying position, and Driver points awarded for race position?
That would be cool IMHO.
Chris
We need a change of environment to foster the kind of racing we want to see. What kind of racing is this... there are as many opinions as people but may be we can agree that we want F1 to be at the cutting edge of engineering, to be fast and to be exciting.checkered wrote:
What delights me in Patrick's thinking is that I perceive the logic to be founded on solid technical/engineering grounds. He's no doubt witnessed the discussions about adjustable winglets, kinetic energy recovery systems and push to pass systems all of which must appear at least somewhat gimmicky, misplaced and artificial to a hard core F1 engineer. Taking one step back and trying to establish an integral of the wider problem could very well produce this simple solution: "Rather than trying to engineer overtaking, let us engineer in an environment where there is overtaking."
This can then be compared with the current points system for the years 2004 - 2007 inclusive. As you can see such a change wouldn't have altered the outcome of the championship for the last 4 years. In fact there are only a few noticable movers - Wurz up 4 places in 2007, Barrichello down 4 places in 2006, Ralf down 3 places and Heidfeld up 3 place in 2005, Button and Alonso both down 3 places and Raikkonen up 4 places in 2004.The drivers table is ordered by the number of wins. Any drivers with the same number of wins (including no wins) are ordered by the number of second places. If they have the same number of second places they are ordered by the number of third places - and so on down the placings until we have a unique position for each driver.