24 Hours of Le Mans 2017

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http://www.lemans.org/en/24-hours-of-le-mans

Its looking like its going to be a close race this year.

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Looking forward to it as usual, maybe Toyota can finally get the monkey off their back this year

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I was watching LeMan qual and wondered spesifications. I found this at http://www.racer.com and suprised very much. 3 car with different specs.
The 24 Hours of Le Mans is loaded with amazingly diverse machinery. Keeping track of the unique characteristics within the three primary classes (LMP1, LMP2, and GTE) is hard enough, and if you take a deeper look inside each of those classes, the differences from one car to the next can be rather significant.

To help you get ready for the 84th running of the world's biggest race, here is RACER's look at the basics with each model on the grid, starting with the wild, Formula 1-level LMP1 Hybrids.

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LMP1 (Hybrid): A maximum of two hybrid energy recovery systems (ERS) for a combined total of 8 megajoules, restricted to 300kw (approximately 400hp) boost for Le Mans. Maximum length: 4650mm/183 in. Maximum width 1900mm/74.8in. Minimum height: 1050mm/41.3in. Minimum weight 875kg/1929lb.

Audi R18 e-tron quattro

Engine: 4.0-liter single turbo diesel V6, deployed to the rear wheels
Claimed Engine Power and Torque: 514 hp, over 627 ft-lb
ERS System: 6 megajoules with lithium-ion battery storage, single motor generator unit (MGU) driven by the front axles, deployed to the front wheels
Transmission: 6-speed
Standard fuel capacity: 49.9 liters

919Porsche 919 Hybrid (right)

Engine: 2.0-liter single turbo V4
Claimed Engine Power and Torque: 500 hp, unspecified
ERS System: 8 megajoules with lithium-ion battery storage, motor generator unit (MGU) driven by the front axles plus exhaust-driven ERS, both deployed to the front wheels
Transmission: 7-speed
Standard fuel capacity: 62.5 liters

Toyota TS050 Hybrid

Engine: 2.4-liter twin-turbo V6
Claimed Engine Power and Torque: 500 hp, unspecified
ERS System: 8 megajoules with lithium-ion battery storage, dual motor generator units (MGU) driven by the front and rear axles, deployed to the front and rear wheels
Transmission: 7-speed
Standard fuel capacity: 62.5 liters

LMP1 (Non-Hybrid): Maximum length: 4650mm/183 in. Maximum width 1900mm/74.8in. Minimum height: 1050mm/41.3in. Minimum weight 850kg/1874lb

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Kamui Kobayashi annihilates the track record! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sy91BcB ... e=youtu.be

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Santozini wrote:
16 Jun 2017, 09:29
Kamui Kobayashi annihilates the track record! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sy91BcB ... e=youtu.be
Lets hope they actually have a bit of luck this year, I think they deserve it :D

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Holm86 wrote:
16 Jun 2017, 10:17
Santozini wrote:
16 Jun 2017, 09:29
Kamui Kobayashi annihilates the track record! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sy91BcB ... e=youtu.be
Lets hope they actually have a bit of luck this year, I think they deserve it :D
Agree, I'd like to see them finally get one.
Honda!

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Will the race be broadcasted live on youtube like FPs and Qualifying?

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etusch wrote:I was watching LeMan qual and wondered spesifications. I found this at http://www.racer.com and suprised very much. 3 car with different specs.
The 24 Hours of Le Mans is loaded with amazingly diverse machinery. Keeping track of the unique characteristics within the three primary classes (LMP1, LMP2, and GTE) is hard enough, and if you take a deeper look inside each of those classes, the differences from one car to the next can be rather significant.

To help you get ready for the 84th running of the world's biggest race, here is RACER's look at the basics with each model on the grid, starting with the wild, Formula 1-level LMP1 Hybrids.

***

LMP1 (Hybrid): A maximum of two hybrid energy recovery systems (ERS) for a combined total of 8 megajoules, restricted to 300kw (approximately 400hp) boost for Le Mans. Maximum length: 4650mm/183 in. Maximum width 1900mm/74.8in. Minimum height: 1050mm/41.3in. Minimum weight 875kg/1929lb.

Audi R18 e-tron quattro

Engine: 4.0-liter single turbo diesel V6, deployed to the rear wheels
Claimed Engine Power and Torque: 514 hp, over 627 ft-lb
ERS System: 6 megajoules with lithium-ion battery storage, single motor generator unit (MGU) driven by the front axles, deployed to the front wheels
Transmission: 6-speed
Standard fuel capacity: 49.9 liters

919Porsche 919 Hybrid (right)

Engine: 2.0-liter single turbo V4
Claimed Engine Power and Torque: 500 hp, unspecified
ERS System: 8 megajoules with lithium-ion battery storage, motor generator unit (MGU) driven by the front axles plus exhaust-driven ERS, both deployed to the front wheels
Transmission: 7-speed
Standard fuel capacity: 62.5 liters

Toyota TS050 Hybrid

Engine: 2.4-liter twin-turbo V6
Claimed Engine Power and Torque: 500 hp, unspecified
ERS System: 8 megajoules with lithium-ion battery storage, dual motor generator units (MGU) driven by the front and rear axles, deployed to the front and rear wheels
Transmission: 7-speed
Standard fuel capacity: 62.5 liters

LMP1 (Non-Hybrid): Maximum length: 4650mm/183 in. Maximum width 1900mm/74.8in. Minimum height: 1050mm/41.3in. Minimum weight 850kg/1874lb
Except Audi is not running this year. There is Nissan engine in ByKolles racing machine.

I am looking forward pretty much to the race and possible Toyota win. There are 19 ex f1 drivers, from the most experienced (Rubens) to the 1 race runners but LeMans veterans. Plus there are Formula E, Indycar, GT and other guys.

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What I am surprised is different specs with almost same power. Maybe F1 also choose this way.

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etusch wrote:
16 Jun 2017, 22:59
What I am surprised is different specs with almost same power. Maybe F1 also choose this way.
Why would you expect more technical freedom to lead to closer performance? If you removed Honda then differences between the F1 engines is probably very similar to the differences between Porsche and Toyota. If you go back to 2015 WEC there were very noticeable and extreme differences between the 3 power plants in WEC.

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Cold Fussion wrote:
17 Jun 2017, 05:58
etusch wrote:
16 Jun 2017, 22:59
What I am surprised is different specs with almost same power. Maybe F1 also choose this way.
Why would you expect more technical freedom to lead to closer performance? If you removed Honda then differences between the F1 engines is probably very similar to the differences between Porsche and Toyota. If you go back to 2015 WEC there were very noticeable and extreme differences between the 3 power plants in WEC.
There could be performance gap everytime. Some can do good job and some can't. This is natural. Some can do good on some spec and some can do on other spec. Like 160 kw ers limitation there could be power limit and two or three way to choose. What is wrong with it ?
Fia put limitation CFD and wind tunnel usage but don't put limitation on time period for working on a project. For example at 2020 F1 will start to use new spec engines. So they can put a rule bans early start to project like manufacturers only can start to work for that spec at 2019 rule. They put freezing time but don't put rule starting time. These kind of things can make sport more trustfull and can bring more manufacturer.
I am sure everyone want to see more than 4 Pu manufacturer at F1, more than 2 manufacturer at LeMan. Same at WTCC. These are what I think. Could be wrong or others can think deffernt naturally.

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Great start.
After 45 min only 3 sec among top 3. 1,2 Toyota, 3 Porsh...
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Close battle in Lmp2 too. Seems like Toyota #7 and Porsche #1 are favorites for the win. However as we learned from the last and some previous years. .. nothing is certain until checked flag falls

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Ill tell you this, the problems that the P1HYs are having on the front braking systems and MGU-Ks could hand a Rebellion P2 overall victory or at least a overall podium. All it needs is another problem or two and a car to trip over a GT or P2 car with a tired driver who has ran out of talent and it could happen.

This is becoming the closest LM24 Ive ever seen, and I've seen them since about 1998.

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Lead Toyota out ?