2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Hamilton vs Vettel incident

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Re: 2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Hamilton vs Vettel incident

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Hmmmmmm, Let's rewind:
Vettel did the exactly same thing of what he is accusing Lewis of in Singapore a numer of years back. He was leading or in a leading position and the driver behaind him was Button. Now Button, who is a much more relaxed and thoughtful driver than Vettel did not hit him or react like Vettel is. Button came on the radio to complain that Sebastian was being a naughty little boy (C**t, I would say) by slowing right down at the apex under the bridge but no contact!!!
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fabian77 wrote:
25 Jun 2017, 17:39


Im not apologising his actions he deserved the penalty, it was stupidity and cost him the win, but your over reaction comparing Vettel to Schumi 97 Jerez is hilarious.
Can you please quote the post where I mentioned Schumi in 1997 at Jerez?

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By the way, Vettel is denying he ran in to the side of Lewis.

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Diesel wrote:
25 Jun 2017, 17:42
By the way, Vettel is denying he ran in to the side of Lewis.
Yes, that is quite pathetic. His brain must've erased the memory. Just incredible...
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For me those were appauling actions by Seb knowing he's a director of the GPDA. It's a 'safety' car period. Yes 'safety', it means safety has to be guaranteed at all cost. Colliding twice with the leader is just unacceptable. The leader sets the pace.

Not sure if Lewis did brake or not or he was just simply off throttle. I think I understand what Lewis was trying to do. He was giving the safety car a big enough of a gap to get back to the pit, because I noticed during one of the restarts, the safety car only just managed to get back to the pit when the Lewis flew by the start-finish straight. What you don't want is Lewis slowing down on the straight, because guaranteed cars behind would probably pile up, reminiscence to what Schumacher did in 2000 at Monza right before Parabolica.

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In the onboard it shows Hamilton's brake light flickered momentarily as he negotiated the corner but it appears he just did not accelerate. Vettel should at least receive a reprimand fir this, it sets a very poor example to others.
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WaikeCU wrote:
25 Jun 2017, 17:44
For me those were appauling actions by Seb knowing he's a director of the GPDA. It's a 'safety' car period. Yes 'safety', it means safety has to be guaranteed at all cost. Colliding twice with the leader is just unacceptable. The leader sets the pace.

Not sure if Lewis did brake or not or he was just simply off throttle. I think I understand what Lewis was trying to do. He was giving the safety car a big enough of a gap to get back to the pit, because I noticed during one of the restarts, the safety car only just managed to get back to the pit when the Lewis flew by the start-finish straight. What you don't want is Hamilton slowing down on the straight, because guaranteed cars behind would probably pile up, reminiscence to what Schumacher did in 2000 at Monza right before Parabolica.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwfXjr_FDLg&dummy=1
Im sure that happened here last year in GP2. The lead car had to slow as he caught the safety car
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nevill3 wrote:
25 Jun 2017, 17:46
In the onboard it shows Hamilton's brake light flickered momentarily as he negotiated the corner but it appears he just did not accelerate. Vettel should at least receive a reprimand fir this, it sets a very poor example to others.
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nevill3 wrote:
25 Jun 2017, 17:46
In the onboard it shows Hamilton's brake light flickered momentarily as he negotiated the corner but it appears he just did not accelerate. Vettel should at least receive a reprimand fir this, it sets a very poor example to others.
F1 cars don't have a brake light. If what you are saying is true, it means his car was harvesting, something the driver has no control over. This would essentially absolve Hamilton of all blame.

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NathanOlder wrote:
25 Jun 2017, 17:48

Im sure that happened here last year in GP2. The lead car had to slow as he caught the safety car
The whole situation has been created by a circuit that is simply not fit for purpose. It's a terrible circuit and it has no place on the F1 calendar.

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Haha like if this discussion on a UK forum has any use, I'd say Hamilton should be punished 😂😉

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nevill3 wrote:
25 Jun 2017, 17:46
In the onboard it shows Hamilton's brake light flickered momentarily as he negotiated the corner but it appears he just did not accelerate. Vettel should at least receive a reprimand fir this, it sets a very poor example to others.
Small correction for you...there is no brake light on f1 cars. Ham was harvesting electricity, but yes I agree that vet needs a post race penalty of some sort as well, preferably points and maybe even grid demotions next race

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epo wrote:
25 Jun 2017, 17:50
Haha like if this discussion on a UK forum has any use, I'd say Hamilton should be punished 😂😉
It's not a UK forum

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Diesel wrote:
25 Jun 2017, 17:49
NathanOlder wrote:
25 Jun 2017, 17:48

Im sure that happened here last year in GP2. The lead car had to slow as he caught the safety car
The whole situation has been created by a circuit that is simply not fit for purpose. It's a terrible circuit and it has no place on the F1 calendar.
I think the circuit is fine, but the race was managed horribly.
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Diesel wrote:
25 Jun 2017, 17:49
NathanOlder wrote:
25 Jun 2017, 17:48

Im sure that happened here last year in GP2. The lead car had to slow as he caught the safety car
The whole situation has been created by a circuit that is simply not fit for purpose. It's a terrible circuit and it has no place on the F1 calendar.
So now you're blaming the track?!
What about Monaco then? This track is fine and drivers need to be able to drive on it properly or don't race at all