Sebastian Vettel has escaped further penalties for his clash with Lewis Hamilton at the most recent Azerbaijani Grand Prix. The German Ferrari driver met with the FIA today in Paris, and admitted full responsibility for the events that occurred.
So that answers whether or not he slowed down. I still agree however he is entitled to it as long as it cannot be classified as dangerous. In my opinion, and I the stewards look to share that opinion, it was not."Like all the other restarts, I slowed down in the same spot. He was obviously sleeping and drove into the back of me. That wasn't, for me, an issue.
No, Vettel didn't accelerated stupidly. Even Perez had to brake. Lewis braked where it wasn't suppose to do.PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑25 Jun 2017, 19:20Lewis has the right to slow down. He did the same thing on the previous saftey car.
Vettel wanted to get the jump and stupidly accelerated into the back of Lewis. Even the Ferrari people know it. Why in the hell is he is close to Lewis' gearbox in the first place? Look how spaced everyone else is?
I am shocked that Vettel was not black flagged. Not even schumacher did anything like that. In fact his penalty was almost toothless.. It took too long to be issued and he got a good bit of laps in clean air to pretty much nullify it.
He forgot the word 'Gentle'Phil wrote: ↑25 Jun 2017, 18:50If it wasnt deliberate, i'm not sure how to take Vettels post race interview about "we are men" etc when asked specifically by CH4 if he moved into Lewis deliberately...aral wrote: ↑25 Jun 2017, 18:47This is going to be a contentious issue, seen differently by both sides. But, imo, there is blame attributable to both. Hamilton did not act correctly in relation to SC and in fact was nearly in trouble for actually passing the SC ! He was agitated and only data will show whether or not he deliberately slowed down or braked with Vettel so close behind him. And then there is the issue of Vettel. Watch the onboards from the Ferrari, Seb did not actually turn the steering wheel, so you need to look at the frontal view. The rear of the Ferrari stepped out and caused the car to swing into Hamilton. Was that coincidental or deliberate? Who knows? But steering telemetry would have the answer and will be debated by the stewards later on, especially if there is an appeal.
But i doubt that there would be an appeal as the situation returned to normal after penalty and Mercs foul-up.
Lets hope that the fanboys do not clutter up the site with wild accusations and counter accusations.
You realize a driver can brake where ever they choose right?
Bias much? Of course he deserved the penalty for bumping. But what caused his outrage did the same... Hamilton's braketestingfoxmulder_ms wrote: ↑25 Jun 2017, 19:18This is OUTRAGEOUS, Vettel can do whatever he wants apparently:
Couple races ago it is proven that Vettel can start where-ever he wants. Grid spot borders mean squat.
Next level: If you crash into someone you only get 10 second penalty, of course if you name is Vettel.
This is seriously BS, what can be a more serious act??? If Vettel's action did not deserve disqualification what action would???? Pure travesty..
That video ends the arguement for me..Hamilton ABSOULUTELY braked his car and there is zero doubt about it.reaper663 wrote: ↑25 Jun 2017, 19:28It seems that Hamilton did brake in the middle of the corner and abit later just after. So he did check him quite dangerously in the middle of a corner.
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https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-v ... ku-923288/Hamilton wrote:"Like all the other restarts, I slowed down in the same spot. He was obviously sleeping and drove into the back of me. That wasn't, for me, an issue.
So Hamilton said he did it on the same spot each time and Vettel looks to be confirming this. So Vettel was warned in my opinion he'd slow down there, yet he on 3d restart (I believe?) he suddenly ran into Hamilton because Hamilton supposedly braked dangerously? In my view that's an unreasonable standpoint.Vettel wrote:"It's just not the way to do it. He's done it a couple of times. Afterwards his restart was really good. He surprised me and jumped me, so I don't think it was necessary.
"the track made me do it".... nah...Tom145145 wrote: ↑25 Jun 2017, 19:44The whole incident is related to the track layout. As the main strait is so long and the cars a so much faster that the SC the leader must start backing up the pack in the worst possible place or catch it before it enters the pits. I think the VSC should have been used for these incidents to try to avoid the cascade of restart crashes.
