Sebastian Vettel has escaped further penalties for his clash with Lewis Hamilton at the most recent Azerbaijani Grand Prix. The German Ferrari driver met with the FIA today in Paris, and admitted full responsibility for the events that occurred.
Auto motor and sport has learned that Todt is thinking about citing Vettel before the sports court. There, he could be at risk of a race ban for a race . A decision on whether or not to come to a negotiation should fall this week.
While he is forced to write everyday on Twitter. He hates this stuff.Squid wrote: ↑27 Jun 2017, 21:13And there it is. The reason why Seb still hasn't said absolutely anything publicly about the second contact. Many people are criticizing Vettel for not apologizing straight away, but if the FIA is not done with them yet, saying anything could hurt them even further. Wait until FIA closes the file on this, then make the statement.
If he publicly said it was intentional, the FIA has a confession.
If he publicly said it was accidental and the FIA decides it was intentional, they might come down even harder.
It's just better to not say anything yet.
Force Vettel to do cheesy road safety ads for TV.
Well, worst case it could be a race ban. It could also just be that in the end Seb still gets DSQ'ed from the results in Baku.Phil wrote: ↑27 Jun 2017, 14:35IMO - this is just bad. If the stewards may have come up with a more "appropriate punishment" than the 10 seconds stop-and-go (like a disqualification), this would be a thing of the past and we'd be looking forward. Because of it, we may have a bigger influence on the WDC and in a totally unrelated race which is always just bad for F1, bad for the sport etc.
If Seb had been disqualified from Baku, the WDC gap would have been down to zero which would have been a lot better (and solved by now) than potential future-race-ban that could cost way more points.
Perhaps one could say that if Vettel had taken an apologetic stance post race (instead of maintaining he was in the right and avoid the questions), he could have avoided any such potential aftermath.
PS: I still like Seb.
PPS: I think the FIA is more limited now to do something as anything will have a bigger influence on the WDC (which no one wants). So my guess is what ever comes, a race ban will not be it. Perhaps a big fine?
- They won't do anything nor should they, overreaction fuelled by BS media. It was more stupid, self inflicted, warm blooded (another lost win) than dangerous or bad. What Ocon did was worse.WaikeCU wrote: ↑28 Jun 2017, 09:05Well, worst case it could be a race ban. It could also just be that in the end Seb still gets DSQ'ed from the results in Baku.Phil wrote: ↑27 Jun 2017, 14:35IMO - this is just bad. If the stewards may have come up with a more "appropriate punishment" than the 10 seconds stop-and-go (like a disqualification), this would be a thing of the past and we'd be looking forward. Because of it, we may have a bigger influence on the WDC and in a totally unrelated race which is always just bad for F1, bad for the sport etc.
If Seb had been disqualified from Baku, the WDC gap would have been down to zero which would have been a lot better (and solved by now) than potential future-race-ban that could cost way more points.
Perhaps one could say that if Vettel had taken an apologetic stance post race (instead of maintaining he was in the right and avoid the questions), he could have avoided any such potential aftermath.
PS: I still like Seb.
PPS: I think the FIA is more limited now to do something as anything will have a bigger influence on the WDC (which no one wants). So my guess is what ever comes, a race ban will not be it. Perhaps a big fine?
. As for me, I am loving it.
I just wanted to clarify that. I am pretty much a Hamilton supporter, but I do genuinely like Seb. He's fun, intelligent, witty and I do respect him a lot for his driving. I think his meltdown was very stupid and I do believe that he did deserve a DSQ for that (if only to set a precedence that such things are unsportsmanlike and have absolutely no place in motorsport). Other than that though, he's cool. I'm not going to burn him or make him seem like he is evil or something. I'm also not going to find reasons to bash him just because he made an error in judgement in the heat of the moment. If he does get an additional penalty, I do hope it will be confined to the race in Baku (like suggested; disqualify his points for that race) and nothing more.
Oh man! Vettel gets compared with Zidane..love it.Phil wrote: ↑28 Jun 2017, 10:44I just wanted to clarify that. I am pretty much a Hamilton supporter, but I do genuinely like Seb. He's fun, intelligent, witty and I do respect him a lot for his driving. I think his meltdown was very stupid and I do believe that he did deserve a DSQ for that (if only to set a precedence that such things are unsportsmanlike and have absolutely no place in motorsport). Other than that though, he's cool. I'm not going to burn him or make him seem like he is evil or something. I'm also not going to find reasons to bash him just because he made an error in judgement in the heat of the moment. If he does get an additional penalty, I do hope it will be confined to the race in Baku (like suggested; disqualify his points for that race) and nothing more.
We're all human. That includes you, me and all drivers on the grid.
Speaking of which, Zidane head-butt was an iconic moment too. He got the red card for that, but I don't think that mattered in that moment anymore. I respect him for doing that and he took it like a man too.
sheesh i mean really? i'm amazed at all the faux outrage because vettel bumped into hamilton at less than 10 miles per hour...its really nauseating to be honest.bonjon1979 wrote: ↑28 Jun 2017, 13:14There has to be serious thoughts about a further penalty. Not necessarily for what the action he did on track but his attitude afterwards is bring the sport into disrepute. If he's denying that he did anything wrong by deliberately ramming another competitor then it sets a terrible example for the junior formulas. I wouldn't be surprised if he's brought up before the FIA again...
You're so completely wrong. Kids look up to the stars of their sport and it's a terrible example. It also shows a total disregard for those who imposed the penalty upon him.
You may not have the same opinion but it's doesn't mean it's not worth discussing. These guys are idols, this sort of behaviour is a problem in junior formula and karting...it sets a poor example and the sport is yet again putting entertainment ahead of consistency with penalties. It should have been dealt with without consideration of the championship.
Yeah i found interesting when Hamilton said that this would be a bad example to the young guys... and i remembered about him making a vídeo or taking pictures, while riding a motorcycle...
