Jolle wrote: ↑18 Jul 2017, 15:59
Just compare the B194 and the W08, the amount of sophistication is astonishing.... not just the chassis but also the almost direct Hybrid PU with (because of the K unit) zero throttle lag.
and yet, despite the far worse handling of the 1994 car, the Benetton had higher cornering speed than even the current 2017 cars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8k-D9-AZoo
That's what a light car, with a bigger diffuser, and a lower ride height(wooden plank was introduced a bit later) was capable of, even with much less sophistication (on it's chassis, aero and despite the narrower tyres) than a modern car.
This response was just a brief and friendly OT, btw.
Moose wrote: ↑17 Jul 2017, 21:40
Ferrari have no issue with power, they have an issue with high speed downforce.
Ferrari had more downforce than Mercedes on Barcelona and even on Austria(RB, Mclaren all had more speed on Rindt corner), which was just a week ago. Also, I watched
Kimi's fastest FP2 lap onboard and he was slightly faster, on Copse, than Hamilton on his pole. So there is no evidence that Ferrari lacks downforce to Mercedes, quite the contrary. Maybe Ferrari's apparent time loss on Beckets, Chapel(going by what you or some other member said, who I suppose was following the race with the timing app) was related with something else in the chassis, involving direction changes going quickly from left to right, and vice versa.
I do expect Mercedes to be the best car on Hungary too, given it's big dominance on Silverstone(wasn't thinking it before the last weekend, but Mercedes new upgrade changed my mind) but it's a very different track and Ferrari could be much stronger there because, unlike you, I believe Ferrari lacks power and not downforce, and that wouldn't matter much on the Hungaroring