Sebastian Vettel secured victory at the Hungarian Grand Prix, despite car issues that hampered his pace. As others were unable to overtake, Raikkonen finished a close second, followed by Valtteri Bottas for Mercedes.
Yeah, the thought came to my mind. He said he wasn't happy and he wanted the win. So of course a statement that he still has the speed to match "the best driver in the world" and there is no need to replace him.George-Jung wrote: ↑31 Jul 2017, 18:14Did anyone consider that Kimi chatted so much over the radio to show the team he still got the speed for a contract renewal and also still is a teamplayer?
Do you remember the "outcry" from Ferrari fans when HAM asked the team to tell BOT to help him in previous races?
really dudeChene_Mostert wrote: ↑31 Jul 2017, 20:28Totally Agree, Trolling and blatant hypocricy seems to at the order of the day this seasonJust_a_fan wrote: ↑31 Jul 2017, 19:51There's some very obvious trolling going on here and people are feeding it. Stop it!
he said it happened already when they dropped the car on the starting grid
I'm not, I'm still cheesed of with Max taking out Daniel, seriously shoddy work from him!
yep. I was looking forward to that battle materializing. Max is a mad man who doesnt mind crashing, and lewis had a lot to lose taking on max.WaikeCU wrote: ↑31 Jul 2017, 10:43You mean the one at the restart after the SC period?ringo wrote: ↑31 Jul 2017, 04:16There was glimpse of what would have been a Hamilton and Verstappen Battle.
Max seemed to have resorted to his kamikaze style for a moment when hamilton started his old clinical overtake manoeuvres. Hamilton seemed to have got on the radio to complain about max driving dangerously.
Any thoughts on that little battle there?
I don't see how the "anger" of certain members of Mercedes affects the reality of this practice having been performed several times already.Treble wrote: ↑31 Jul 2017, 20:36If it happens always in many teams and it is all so normal, why Ham was frustrated at end of the race? Why Toto was so angry against Lauda and the Mercedes paddock looked like a funeral ceremony?ChrisDanger wrote: ↑31 Jul 2017, 19:24The fact that you've completely missed every instance of this happening is astounding, and what I alluded to in my earlier post. Because that situation happens regularly, in many teams. And it's not about team orders, in terms of favouring a specific driver. It's about a team trying to maximise their overall result.
Toto Wolff said, not wrote:The purpose of us being here is doing the right things and winning in the right way. Sometimes doing it the right way and standing by your values is f****** tough and it was today, believe me. I feel crap.
You forgot that Vet couldn't use the kerbs. He was trying to be gentle with the steering wheel. This means that if Hamilton had a chance to attack Vet we could have seen a Silverstone similar situation, when Vettel ruined his tyres to fight vs Bottas.NathanOlder wrote: ↑31 Jul 2017, 17:41
Why do people keep saying 4th or 5th for Seb. BOTTAS AND MAX NEVER CAUGHT him. Even without rear gunner kimi , it was only Lewis who would have had ago JEEEEEEZ!
All people are getting at is, Ferrari risked a 1-2 or 1-3 by doing what they did. If Lewis passed Kimi through a Kimi mistake and then managed to pasa Vettel as easy as you people think, it would have been a 2-3 for Ferrari and Lewis would be leading the championship. Fortunately for Ferrari the risk paid off. They Gambled and it worked this time. Any other track (other than monaco) it probably would have backfired.
They took a risky 1-2 instead of (at worse) an easy 1-3 but probably still a 1-2 with Kimi 1st. Their choice meant a 2-3 was possible. If they swapped them around a win was guaranteed (reliability being good)
We could have but we'll never know. For all we know Seb could have held Lewis off no problem. Dont say Vettel couldnt use kerbs because Vettel was still using the kerbs. He just wasnt hitting them hard, like in the chicane where they are very big.Treble wrote: ↑01 Aug 2017, 08:40You forgot that Vet couldn't use the kerbs. He was trying to be gentle with the steering wheel. This means that if Hamilton had a chance to attack Vet we could have seen a Silverstone similar situation, when Vettel ruined his tyres to fight vs Bottas.NathanOlder wrote: ↑31 Jul 2017, 17:41
Why do people keep saying 4th or 5th for Seb. BOTTAS AND MAX NEVER CAUGHT him. Even without rear gunner kimi , it was only Lewis who would have had ago JEEEEEEZ!
All people are getting at is, Ferrari risked a 1-2 or 1-3 by doing what they did. If Lewis passed Kimi through a Kimi mistake and then managed to pasa Vettel as easy as you people think, it would have been a 2-3 for Ferrari and Lewis would be leading the championship. Fortunately for Ferrari the risk paid off. They Gambled and it worked this time. Any other track (other than monaco) it probably would have backfired.
They took a risky 1-2 instead of (at worse) an easy 1-3 but probably still a 1-2 with Kimi 1st. Their choice meant a 2-3 was possible. If they swapped them around a win was guaranteed (reliability being good)
