Unlike the sporting behaviour from the british crowd cheering when Ferrari had tyre problems at Silverstone, short memory you have.
Unlike the sporting behaviour from the british crowd cheering when Ferrari had tyre problems at Silverstone, short memory you have.
Steady on guys, that could sound like there's something wrong with being black. I know thats now whatyou meant but some sensitive people could read it thay wayRestomaniac wrote: ↑03 Sep 2017, 17:01Indeed but none of them really deserve the booing. As it's not Lewis' fault he is black, brilliant, too good for Ferrari, Ferrari have been crapola at home for almost a decade, didn't ram an opponent off the track and it's going to become a precession again.TAG wrote: ↑03 Sep 2017, 16:53Vettel has thrown his car at another driver in frustration. He saw quite a bit of booing after multil2-1. I think he's earned most of the booing he's received.
1- his skin colorRestomaniac wrote: ↑03 Sep 2017, 16:45What exactly was the reason for the booing today? No other season other than the Ferraris lost. Poor sportsmanship end of.
2- that he just overtook Schumaker's record
3- the tifosi today had to suffer through an embarrassing performance
4- the last win at home was in 2010
5- it's tolerated by Ferrari, when they defended their own drive for throwing his car at a competetito
6- the writing is on the wall
There are a lot of reasons.
We get it dont worry.NathanOlder wrote: ↑03 Sep 2017, 17:20Steady on guys, that could sound like there's something wrong with being black. I know thats now whatyou meant but some sensitive people could read it thay wayRestomaniac wrote: ↑03 Sep 2017, 17:01Indeed but none of them really deserve the booing. As it's not Lewis' fault he is black, brilliant, too good for Ferrari, Ferrari have been crapola at home for almost a decade, didn't ram an opponent off the track and it's going to become a precession again.TAG wrote: ↑03 Sep 2017, 16:53
Vettel has thrown his car at another driver in frustration. He saw quite a bit of booing after multil2-1. I think he's earned most of the booing he's received.
1- his skin color
2- that he just overtook Schumaker's record
3- the tifosi today had to suffer through an embarrassing performance
4- the last win at home was in 2010
5- it's tolerated by Ferrari, when they defended their own drive for throwing his car at a competetito
6- the writing is on the wall
There are a lot of reasons.
Ferrari knew they wouldn't win at Monza (unless there was a 50 bhp jump) so no point in stressing an engine to have the same result only finish closer.evered7 wrote: ↑03 Sep 2017, 16:01Great recovery from Vettel. Bottas and Hamilton showing that Mercedes was the car to have here. Kimi should have followed Vettel but he did a Kimi and lost one spot to Ricciardo.
Not sure what is happening with the engines at the moment but Vettel seems pretty confident that they will have a strong end to the season. Something must be cooking in the 4th ICE update for Ferrari.
Bring on Singapore. RB will be in the mix there as well. No one can put a foot wrong anymore.
No indeed. There isn't. In fact Lewis needs applauding as he is a brilliant trailblazer.NathanOlder wrote: ↑03 Sep 2017, 17:20Steady on guys, that could sound like there's something wrong with being black. I know thats now whatyou meant but some sensitive people could read it thay wayRestomaniac wrote: ↑03 Sep 2017, 17:01Indeed but none of them really deserve the booing. As it's not Lewis' fault he is black, brilliant, too good for Ferrari, Ferrari have been crapola at home for almost a decade, didn't ram an opponent off the track and it's going to become a precession again.TAG wrote: ↑03 Sep 2017, 16:53
Vettel has thrown his car at another driver in frustration. He saw quite a bit of booing after multil2-1. I think he's earned most of the booing he's received.
1- his skin color
2- that he just overtook Schumaker's record
3- the tifosi today had to suffer through an embarrassing performance
4- the last win at home was in 2010
5- it's tolerated by Ferrari, when they defended their own drive for throwing his car at a competetito
6- the writing is on the wall
There are a lot of reasons.
You're right, and it's a really demanding track in term of tires deg, made the tires working correctly in their temp window, tires overheat, brakes overheat things where Mercedes still have issues. Nevertheless Merc still have the hand with their PU, that's why they have a really good traction. To illustrate that we've seen in Baku in the S2 (very similar to Singapore) they were not so off the pace in qualy and in race.Gothrek wrote: ↑03 Sep 2017, 16:33But now they have a longer wheelbase car, which will make Singapore more difficult.Spoutnik wrote: ↑03 Sep 2017, 16:31Mercedes were really slow in 2015 at Singapore but in 2016 Rosberg put a decent performance and in 2014 Lewis did a fantastic job. Overall we can't say it's an anti-Mercedes trackPhil wrote: ↑03 Sep 2017, 16:23He was probably wishing he had been a Ferrari driver in that moment. Simply spectacular crowd, just driving for the wrong team.
I still think, Vettel may walk away from Singapore being the leader again. Much depends on how strong RedBull will be. We will see though... still a long season ahead.
I am not sure when was Vettel booed in Silverstone? I am sure there was a roar when his tyre blew. Just the same roar that we heard in Malaysia when Lewis' PU went pop. If you are equating that to booing, you probably need to understand what booing near podium means.fabian77 wrote: ↑03 Sep 2017, 17:17Unlike the sporting behaviour from the british crowd cheering when Ferrari had tyre problems at Silverstone, short memory you have.
Have to disagree about the Baku comment. The track is a street circuit yes but that is where the similarity ends. Baku has crazy long straights and is a much higher speed track overall. Singapore is an acceleration deceleration track IMO. 2 very different tracks. Mercedes will get schooled there.Spoutnik wrote: ↑03 Sep 2017, 17:30You're right, and it's a really demanding track in term of tires deg, made the tires working correctly in their temp window, tires overheat, brakes overheat things where Mercedes still have issues. Nevertheless Merc still have the hand with their PU, that's why they have a really good traction. To illustrate that we've seen in Baku in the S2 (very similar to Singapore) they were not so off the pace in qualy and in race.
I was talking about the S2, a track designed by Tilke, like Singapore, with similar 90 degree corner angle. But of course we can say it will be way hotter at Singapore than at Bakudigitalrurouni wrote: ↑03 Sep 2017, 17:50Have to disagree about the Baku comment. The track is a street circuit yes but that is where the similarity ends. Baku has crazy long straights and is a much higher speed track overall. Singapore is an acceleration deceleration track IMO. 2 very different tracks. Mercedes will get schooled there.Spoutnik wrote: ↑03 Sep 2017, 17:30You're right, and it's a really demanding track in term of tires deg, made the tires working correctly in their temp window, tires overheat, brakes overheat things where Mercedes still have issues. Nevertheless Merc still have the hand with their PU, that's why they have a really good traction. To illustrate that we've seen in Baku in the S2 (very similar to Singapore) they were not so off the pace in qualy and in race.
Everyone knows Mercedes has done an incredible job as has Lewis. It was a bit idiotic of the crowd to boo him. But the Vettel they were cheering today was once booed. The thing with Lewis is that he tries to suck up to the crowds for no reason. He tried, got booed and retaliated. I thought the Merc PU comment was stupid. It's just my opinion though.
Enrico shark wrote: ↑03 Sep 2017, 18:10I don't think that the booing was this much of an issue. I'm Italian and here F1 means only one thing: Ferrari. No matter what, every italian citizen has the Rampant Horse beating in his heart. Lewis is a good pilot and I guess that no one can say the opposite, but that is valid only for his skills on the track. Outside the track he has a very bad attitude, and that is one of the reasons because he is so disliked in Italy. And also because he is the one that keeps beating the Ferraris. But I guess that if Vettel wins at Silverstone, the situation would be the same.