Has Max been a verryyy naughty boy?

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http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns20230.html
The latest indication of the impact of Mosley's adventures came yesterday with US comedian Jon Stewart mocking the FIA President on the hugely successful Daily Show.
:lol:
Jay Leno, another talk show host, described Mosley as "the head of Formula 1 racing" used the story to complain about the strength of the Euro against the dollar, saying that American politicians can only afford one hooker, while in Europe one can get five for the same price.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

This has turned from a serious case to a funny one, so...
Slap me, baby... :lol:
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The media is the reason why this is such a big deal. Once people forget about it, no more time will be wasted on this matter. If no one had "spied" on Mosley than we wouldn't be discussing this right now.
I think what Max is doing is correct. He's keeping the media from running the show. If the media ran the show, F1 would turn into a soap opera. F1 is about racing and the people behind it should stay in the background.
I would have done the same thing (although I think I'd rather face the FIA council vs my wife after such shanagans)
I agree with JPM when made light of the fact that he's just some old pervert trying to get his rocks off before it falls off!
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G-Rock, I read it different and agree when JPM says:
It is a laughing matter! You know, when I first heard about it, it was shocking. But then he decided to play it like nothing has happened and it's just so hilarious.
what, "that my credibility has nothing to do with my perversion?"
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ben_watkins wrote:
Rob W wrote:
P_O_L wrote:As for the moderation part jesus give me a break.........therefore cannot be taken seriously as a moderator. As far as im concerned you can stick your moderation where the sun dont shine. You cannot demand respect, you must earn it.
The respect you mention in your (above) post to Ciro is not earned. They get it automatically from selflessly running this board for the benefit of all, and since Tomba owns it - by joining this site you respect him whether you like it or not - just as if you were in someone's home. If you wantonly annoy them, they'll ask you to leave.

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I'd like to say that I agree wholeheartedly with Rob W - I believe that there has been far too many times where P_O_L has not respected this board, the members who contribute to it or the moderators.

Can I bring P_O_L's attention to this please..

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=5009 <--- The RULES of this message board

I believe you have been far less than respectful to others and I'd like to lodge a formal complaint about your abusive attitude in your posts. Frankly I'm surprised you've not been warned or given a temporary suspension or even banned by now.
I second the motion.
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Belatti, citing grandprix.com wrote:The latest indication of the impact of Mosley's adventures came yesterday with US comedian Jon Stewart mocking the FIA President on the hugely successful Daily Show.
I actually saw

the feature (with Nathan Lane - "The Producers", "The Birdcage", etc. - who took Max's extracurricular activities up somewhat wantonly) and Comedy Central has been nice enough to post it online, for the time being - here's the link. Funny stuff, the issue comes up many times through the chat, though curiously in the context of "European" norms of behaviour (as if US citizens were unable or less likely to organise their own "deprived sadomasochistic theme orgies in purpose built dungeons").

I really don't need or appreciate Mr. Mosley becoming some sort of a figurehead for sexual liberation (Not on FIA's time anyway; I mean, Formula One is supposed to be a family friendly sport, wasn't that the point behind Nico's recent comments? There are other more suitable organisations to preside over in a 'liberator in chief' capacity, ones which I imagine would welcome Mosley as a figurehead in the blink of an eye for the sheer publicity alone.) - whether or not one classifies S/M falling under "sexual behaviour". To me, the connotations are less than palpable anyway. But, a random "outtake" from the Daily Show:
Nathan Lane: ... now, you should know, he was sixty ... he's sixty-seven years old, so very often he'd walk into the dungeon in his leather chaps and say: 'What did I come in for?' - but ... ah ...

(increasing laughter)

Nathan Lane: ... but ... eh ... the ...

Jon Stewart: Ah, just wandering around ... ?

(laughter and applause)

Nathan Lane: ... but apparently during the orgy, he would speak in a German accent! And ... who hasn't with their slave with a cat o'nine tails and said: 'Vell Heidi, you've been a verry naugghty girrl!'

(loud giggles, laughter and applause)
Curiously, in the grandprix.com article from which modbaraban quoted from, Mohammed ben Sulayem, the President of the Automobile and Touring Club of the UAE (perhaps contrary to common conjecture and prejudice) offers Mosley rather direct support. I'm not sure if I could even accurately convey just how surreal Formula One appears to me lately. Certainly it's something beyond appreciation, irritation or nausea. Perhaps this indeed is the "Twilight Zone" of motorsports. How befitting that the "pinnacle" has its first night races this year.
grandprix.com, quoting Mohammed ben Sulayem wrote:He did not commit anything that weakens the FIA. We as members of the FIA elected him. I am not shy. I am not going to put my head in the ground.

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Well, glad to see the thread has turned into a much more lighter conversation: frankly, sometimes JPM is like a ray of sunshine.

I like lame jokes, so, I'd say that the "Ten reasons why Max Mosley should be nominated for driver of the year" are:
  • - He's the FIA member that has left more skid marks behind him

    - He can handle tailwinds easily

    - He knows the importance of team work to achieve his goals

    - He supports the german manufacturers

    - He knows how to use a paddle-shift

    - He is an expert at HANS jobs

    - He has a hard time maintaning himself at the pinnacle

    - He moves easily between soft and hard rubber

    - He actively researchs whiplash

    And finally...

    - Max Mosley is the true back-marker of F1
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:lol: =D>
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Three more countries remove support for Max following Nazi-orgy-gate..

http://www.f1technical.net/news/8773

Automobile Association in New Zealand
The Canadian Automobile Association
Austrian body
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G-Rock wrote:The media is the reason why this is such a big deal. Once people forget about it, no more time will be wasted on this matter. If no one had "spied" on Mosley than we wouldn't be discussing this right now.
I think what Max is doing is correct. He's keeping the media from running the show. If the media ran the show, F1 would turn into a soap opera. F1 is about racing and the people behind it should stay in the background.
I would have done the same thing (although I think I'd rather face the FIA council vs my wife after such shanagans)
I agree with JPM when made light of the fact that he's just some old pervert trying to get his rocks off before it falls off!
Are we watching the SAME THING?

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Paul Stoddard, as usual, makes an interesting call on the situation.

He said that the 3rd June meeting is a joke because it allows Mosley plenty of time to lobby members to see his side of the story. Fair enough I guess.

This is interesting when you think about it. A meeting which was conducted immediately could unfairly prejudice him because of the current news worthy-ness of it, emotions still running high and all. But a meeting later could give Max the chance to settle some rumours as Stoddard has suggested. Maybe it would give him time to quietly contact key people and remind them of the favours he's done them over the years - the funding, the grants, the votes etc... It's like an election for the nation of Formula One. 8)

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It also falls 1 week after the Monaco GP, his home town, where they can't say you can't come #-o

He'll be spinning his way around the padock, brazen and acting as tho nothing is wrong, so he can turn up at the EGA and say, look no problems with me doing my day job... [apart from it stings to sit down and I need the dressings changed every 24 hours :mrgreen: ]
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Mosley has been able to get a compromised position from FIA Senate. The first statement at FIA site read like this:
The full membership of the FIA will be invited to attend the meeting at which the widespread publicity following an apparently illegal invasion of the FIA President’s privacy will be discussed.
A naive reader could have concluded that the meeting was to sue NOWT. A week later, the statement from FIA read like this:
The FIA can confirm that the members of the Senate have unanimously approved the proposal of the President of the FIA, that further to the recent press coverage relating to his private life, an Extraordinary General Assembly should be convened.
It also says that:
The General Assembly will include a vote of confidence by secret ballot.
So, it's a different statement: I see it as a compromise. The "private life" part is mentioned, but also the "no confidence". It says "press coverage" instead of "illegal invasion"... that's a huge difference.

Sure Mosley has time to politick around, that's what we paid him for. On the other hand, the "opposing party" might have time to assemble a consensus candidacy. I only hope that the relevant part of the word "candidate" is not "candid". :) Anyway, I imagine that the issue will be wrapped in blankets until the name of this candid-ate is found.

Actually, I believe that the mere fact that the opposition will "incarnate" in someone is a positive fact for those who want Mosley removed. I only hope is someone who is dign of people rooting for him; that is, someone who is a little more in touch with people in F1. On the other hand, it's hard to find someone who is less in touch than Mosley, but you never know... ;)

Another "danger" for the opposition, or so it seems to me, is for them to pick a totally unkown person, who, in a short couple of months, would have an even harder time collecting delegates than Mr. Mosley.

So, maybe the FIA Senate was not as naive when asked for time: I would have asked for more, to be able to assemble a more effective campaign, raising the issues that evidently can be raised right now, about "power distribution", about a "financially unable FIA", not merely talking about Mr. Mosley "hyperactive pant zipper": that thing, if happening, even being a dish for the press, is the way democracies behave. At stake is nothing less than the future of the FIA: either "more of the same" or what could be qualified as "an unstable epoch". From the point of view of my keyboard, I don't see alternatives: if ever there was a time when it was opportune to "rebel" against the statu quo is now.

If this is simply an issue about "if the FIA president can embarrass himself", well, let's turn off the lights and let's leave the room... The "second level" question is "how much power can be taken away from FOMA"? The third level is "can Mr. Ecclestone assemble his own candidate behind the scene, like the last time?", and so on...

It would be much more interesting if FIA had among its ranks a more outspoken, at the same time more "softspoken", less financially dependent person that could bring some change around. I think that's the basis of Craw's candidacy, the only one picked up by the press and the forums I read. I don't know if he thinks that is wise to mix the election with other issues, but it could be: Mosley legitimacy, no matter how you see it, has expired by now, if not some years ago. My bet is that Mr. Ecclestone already had a candidate or two in his mind, even before the scandal. I don't know if I'm seeing too much into it, but he seems the kind of guy that "doesn't sew even one stitch without a thimble" as we say in spanish.

About Conceptual complain if "we're watching the same thing", well, you know the tale of the blind men and the elephant... in systems science they talk about the "pyramid of information": everybody sees only one side of it.
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"sniff petrol
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:lol:

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Oh look, now the South African motorsport body says he should go..

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/66670

"Every single board member agrees that Max Mosley should step down"

:lol:
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He needs to step down now.