I don't want to point out stereotypes, but southern temperaments do flare and Perez is none different than others. When things aren't in their favor they'll lose focus and become reckless.PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑31 Oct 2017, 18:53What behavior? He behaved no different that any other driver wanting to beat his teammate. Remember Ocon is the guy that beat Max in equal cars. Perez beat Hulk, who is currently 3 tenths faster than Sainz who was arguably quicker than Max. So everything pointing to Perez as a quick driver. One might ask about him Vs Button. Remember he outqualified Button... who by statistical analysis is equal over a single lap to Vettel.
That only shows that a drivers performance can't be measured by an obsever from the outside. Nothing more, nothing less. All this comparisons over different teams and seasons are simply useless.PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑31 Oct 2017, 18:53What behavior? He behaved no different that any other driver wanting to beat his teammate. Remember Ocon is the guy that beat Max in equal cars. Perez beat Hulk, who is currently 3 tenths faster than Sainz who was arguably quicker than Max. So everything pointing to Perez as a quick driver. One might ask about him Vs Button. Remember he outqualified Button... who by statistical analysis is equal over a single lap to Vettel.
Will probably be a pretty good line-up if true, Ericsson will bring some consistency and experience, LeClerc the raw talent.nokivasara wrote: ↑31 Oct 2017, 19:52Leclerc and Ericsson to drive for Sauber 2018?
https://www.blick.ch/sport/formel1/out- ... 30501.html
I hope that Sauber can at least fight for points next year, hate to see a team that much slower than the others. Whichever drivers they'll end up with...
Please, stop. The guy with the worst temper on the grid is Vettel, mr. Teutonic himself.WaikeCU wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 15:22I don't want to point out stereotypes, but southern temperaments do flare and Perez is none different than others. When things aren't in their favor they'll lose focus and become reckless.PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑31 Oct 2017, 18:53What behavior? He behaved no different that any other driver wanting to beat his teammate. Remember Ocon is the guy that beat Max in equal cars. Perez beat Hulk, who is currently 3 tenths faster than Sainz who was arguably quicker than Max. So everything pointing to Perez as a quick driver. One might ask about him Vs Button. Remember he outqualified Button... who by statistical analysis is equal over a single lap to Vettel.
I am actually trying to remember which race did Perez's "Southern Temperament" flared up.WaikeCU wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 15:22I don't want to point out stereotypes, but southern temperaments do flare and Perez is none different than others. When things aren't in their favor they'll lose focus and become reckless.PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑31 Oct 2017, 18:53What behavior? He behaved no different that any other driver wanting to beat his teammate. Remember Ocon is the guy that beat Max in equal cars. Perez beat Hulk, who is currently 3 tenths faster than Sainz who was arguably quicker than Max. So everything pointing to Perez as a quick driver. One might ask about him Vs Button. Remember he outqualified Button... who by statistical analysis is equal over a single lap to Vettel.
I think so too, Ericsson is actually pretty good at finishing the races, he often stays out of trouble. He would need to be much better on friday to be better prepared for qualy, he seems to keep making adjustments all the way to his last run in Q1.Sniffit wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 18:48Will probably be a pretty good line-up if true, Ericsson will bring some consistency and experience, LeClerc the raw talent.nokivasara wrote: ↑31 Oct 2017, 19:52Leclerc and Ericsson to drive for Sauber 2018?
https://www.blick.ch/sport/formel1/out- ... 30501.html
I hope that Sauber can at least fight for points next year, hate to see a team that much slower than the others. Whichever drivers they'll end up with...
F1 needs temperamental drivers, Perez and Ocon has had their brain farts this year but so did Nico and Ham, and pretty much any other even driver pairing. I don't think Perez is any worse than any of the others.WaikeCU wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 15:22I don't want to point out stereotypes, but southern temperaments do flare and Perez is none different than others. When things aren't in their favor they'll lose focus and become reckless.PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑31 Oct 2017, 18:53What behavior? He behaved no different that any other driver wanting to beat his teammate. Remember Ocon is the guy that beat Max in equal cars. Perez beat Hulk, who is currently 3 tenths faster than Sainz who was arguably quicker than Max. So everything pointing to Perez as a quick driver. One might ask about him Vs Button. Remember he outqualified Button... who by statistical analysis is equal over a single lap to Vettel.
I don't know if being over aggressive has to do with southern temperaments, because in 2013 he has made a lot of contact with others in that Mclaren. Then there's Maldonado who also loses temperament at times making contact with others. Massa has also a record of making contact with other drivers when it could have gone a lot better. Fernando also has a fair bit himself, because of that Mclaren.PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 19:56I am actually trying to remember which race did Perez's "Southern Temperament" flared up.WaikeCU wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 15:22I don't want to point out stereotypes, but southern temperaments do flare and Perez is none different than others. When things aren't in their favor they'll lose focus and become reckless.PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑31 Oct 2017, 18:53What behavior? He behaved no different that any other driver wanting to beat his teammate. Remember Ocon is the guy that beat Max in equal cars. Perez beat Hulk, who is currently 3 tenths faster than Sainz who was arguably quicker than Max. So everything pointing to Perez as a quick driver. One might ask about him Vs Button. Remember he outqualified Button... who by statistical analysis is equal over a single lap to Vettel.
At first he was mediocre but he has improved enough to be considered a decent driver. He is solid and constant, and he brings money so its a good choice for Sauber.nokivasara wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 21:03I think so too, Ericsson is actually pretty good at finishing the races, he often stays out of trouble. He would need to be much better on friday to be better prepared for qualy, he seems to keep making adjustments all the way to his last run in Q1.Sniffit wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 18:48Will probably be a pretty good line-up if true, Ericsson will bring some consistency and experience, LeClerc the raw talent.nokivasara wrote: ↑31 Oct 2017, 19:52Leclerc and Ericsson to drive for Sauber 2018?
https://www.blick.ch/sport/formel1/out- ... 30501.html
I hope that Sauber can at least fight for points next year, hate to see a team that much slower than the others. Whichever drivers they'll end up with...
I think he is a pretty decent driver, and surely a good team mate for a rookie.
Should Out qualify him to show him up sitting behind doesn't show a great deal of anything. Just talking on the radio saying your faster just makes you look childish. And if he is such a big dog at force India he should just overtake him like any other driverPlatinumZealot wrote:It is mind games. It is a sport. Perez is getting into Ocons head and smartly so. Crowd his gearbox and show him he's nothing! I call that tactics.
The year started with Checo beating Ocon with decent margin in qualifying. But Canada seems to have to instilled fire in Ocon. After Canada, for a number of races, the difference in qualifying was just a tenth between the two, where Perez was ahead. But in the last 4-5 races, Ocon has been outqualifying Checo by quite a big margin. The margin is increasing, which shows that Ocon is really finding his feat in F1.marmer wrote: ↑02 Nov 2017, 12:59Should Out qualify him to show him up sitting behind doesn't show a great deal of anything. Just talking on the radio saying your faster just makes you look childish. And if he is such a big dog at force India he should just overtake him like any other driverPlatinumZealot wrote:It is mind games. It is a sport. Perez is getting into Ocons head and smartly so. Crowd his gearbox and show him he's nothing! I call that tactics.
And minding you that Ocon had been running a couple times in 3rd place during the race keeping the likes of Kimi behind him, is quite impressive as well.GPR-A wrote: ↑02 Nov 2017, 15:16The year started with Checo beating Ocon with decent margin in qualifying. But Canada seems to have to instilled fire in Ocon. After Canada, for a number of races, the difference in qualifying was just a tenth between the two, where Perez was ahead. But in the last 4-5 races, Ocon has been outqualifying Checo by quite a big margin. The margin is increasing, which shows that Ocon is really finding his feat in F1.marmer wrote: ↑02 Nov 2017, 12:59Should Out qualify him to show him up sitting behind doesn't show a great deal of anything. Just talking on the radio saying your faster just makes you look childish. And if he is such a big dog at force India he should just overtake him like any other driverPlatinumZealot wrote:It is mind games. It is a sport. Perez is getting into Ocons head and smartly so. Crowd his gearbox and show him he's nothing! I call that tactics.
Driver performance does not stay the same throughout the whole career of these drivers, it's not fixed.PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑31 Oct 2017, 18:53What behavior? He behaved no different that any other driver wanting to beat his teammate. Remember Ocon is the guy that beat Max in equal cars. Perez beat Hulk, who is currently 3 tenths faster than Sainz who was arguably quicker than Max. So everything pointing to Perez as a quick driver. One might ask about him Vs Button. Remember he outqualified Button... who by statistical analysis is equal over a single lap to Vettel.