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I wanna to know what are those "wooden like" triangular blocks underside the car?
What is the purpouse?

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Looks to me like there is foam in the wheel arches, which would be to test tyre clearance. The blocks under the car look to be the same material so I'd suggest it's to test ground clearance!? Though I'm certain there are better ways to do that...
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I agree, ground clearance. I don't know of a better way, I suppose I can think of much more expensive and less definitive ways.

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More expensive is more better no? :D

I meant something which offers a more 'accurate' measure. I imagine they have some other ride height sensors to compliment the blocks.
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Stringpots or some other wheel displacement transducer. But that still doesn't tell you what the ground profile is under the car's entire length.

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Greg Locock wrote:
17 Dec 2017, 11:45
I agree, ground clearance. I don't know of a better way, I suppose I can think of much more expensive and less definitive ways.
This makes sense to me considering it's electric and may have a floor filled with batteries. They'll want to know where and how impacts might occur. Tesla dealt with a fluke fire in a customer's car a few years back; they'd run over a large metal object which wedged under the floor, spearing it and causing fire to the battery pack. The solution was to reinforce some part of the front floor, I believe (which was already armored to prevent such occurrences).

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Greg Locock wrote:
17 Dec 2017, 11:45
I agree, ground clearance. I don't know of a better way, I suppose I can think of much more expensive and less definitive ways.
Yes, simple yet effective.
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jjn9128 wrote:
17 Dec 2017, 11:55
More expensive is more better no? :D

I meant something which offers a more 'accurate' measure. I imagine they have some other ride height sensors to compliment the blocks.
My guess is that they laser scan the bottom surface after the test to find the ground clearance envelope.
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Laser scan or a touch probe. Doesn't look to me like they're supposed to ground out - so maybe a before and after is enough to confirm a minimum GC is conserved?!
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I see they brought 3 cars to test, along with a Tesla S, for comparison I assume
over looking all the extra black tape covering up stuff, I think they look pretty good

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bdr529 wrote:
19 Dec 2017, 00:28
I see they brought 3 cars to test, along with a Tesla S, for comparison I assume
over looking all the extra black tape covering up stuff, I think they look pretty good

http://cdn2.autoexpress.co.uk/sites/aut ... k=2thTnYJ-
I am not to pleased about the hood which is getting flatter. I can see it is a further evolution from the Cayenne and Panamera styling, but It looks a bit bland to me. It does not really scream porsche, it is more like a cheap ferrari ripoff.

The concepts looked a lot more promising with an agressive raised hood over the weelarches, and a much more styled nose. These might not be the final headlights but I doubt they will change much on the contours.

I personally would like to try a full on electric retro 911. The retro look is combining quite well with electric and seems to fall in good taste with the yuppy crowd. But that is perhaps why I am not in marketing. :D

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Edax wrote:
19 Dec 2017, 01:42
I personally would like to try a full on electric retro 911. The retro look is combining quite well with electric and seems to fall in good taste with the yuppy crowd. But that is perhaps why I am not in marketing.
There's a company in Wales who would make one for you :o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJLdzRJdKrs

JLR have done a prototype retrofit of an e-type with an electric powertrain too!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=610Amyhpzzk
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jjn9128 wrote:
19 Dec 2017, 02:10
Edax wrote:
19 Dec 2017, 01:42
I personally would like to try a full on electric retro 911. The retro look is combining quite well with electric and seems to fall in good taste with the yuppy crowd. But that is perhaps why I am not in marketing.
There's a company in Wales who would make one for you :o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJLdzRJdKrs

JLR have done a prototype retrofit of an e-type with an electric powertrain too!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=610Amyhpzzk
Thanks, for me I would prefer the gasoline originals anyways.

I was more thinking along the lines of these EV concepts.

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Edax wrote:
19 Dec 2017, 01:42

I am not to pleased about the hood which is getting flatter. I can see it is a further evolution from the Cayenne and Panamera styling, but It looks a bit bland to me. It does not really scream porsche, it is more like a cheap ferrari ripoff.

The concepts looked a lot more promising with an agressive raised hood over the weelarches, and a much more styled nose. These might not be the final headlights but I doubt they will change much on the contours.

I personally would like to try a full on electric retro 911. The retro look is combining quite well with electric and seems to fall in good taste with the yuppy crowd. But that is perhaps why I am not in marketing. :D
Concepts always look more promising, and then reality sets in :( , eg. the suicide rear door's.
As for the head lights, the black tape/panel is covering up quite a bit, I think that the original look of the lights is still the same or close to it on this car, open photo up in another window and you can see there's a lot more going on there.

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God I hope they wont stick with those fake exhausts :wtf: