You don't even need to put it in the car to get it run.
You need to understand that the size of the PU itself is not the only factor, but moreover the design and the layout play the most significant challenge by the means of how it fits in the chassis. For god's sake, saying that the Honda PU is smaller compared to the Reno PU and thus can easily fit into a chassis build for Reno PU is total BS. This is not your refrigerator at home when you say... hey this bottle is smaller compared to the other one, it will fit just right in....NO! It does not work that way.... this is not like in car projects were people put smaller engines in Ford Mustang's or something....even then almost the hole engine compartment needs to be remade.... and guess what .... a new gearbox as well.carisi2k wrote: ↑22 Dec 2017, 04:18If the Honda fit into the size 0 packaging of Mclaren then I don't think it will be such a problem with the size 2 STR and RBR chassis which were built around the much larger Renault unit even if the engine has to move rewards in the chassis. All this nonsense about different radiators and locations is balony when you consider how big the Renault is compared to the Honda. We never got to see the spec 4 race which would have been good to see where Honda's progression was at. Red Bull has had to make significant compromises to the RB10,11,12 and 13 due to the size of the Renault.
Really you deduced that from that article? LOL.carisi2k wrote: ↑22 Dec 2017, 22:56I think Mclaren are having second thoughts already. http://www.planetf1.com/news/mclaren-ab ... da-return/
When asked again if McLaren would work with Honda again, he reiterated: "Oh of course, absolutely."
If RBT is driving the Honda integration at STR, the chances that they are also preparing a RB14H-bspec chassis gathers more credibility, in my eyes. It would make sense to have a mule in testing at the start of 2018, as a change could be done at the beginning of the European rounds, and Tag would just re-badge the Honda instead of the Renault.rogazilla wrote: ↑29 Dec 2017, 15:56I predict McLaren will have higher finishes than TR but TR will score similar amount of points.
One thing interesting was read that Key said TR was going to have the rear end designed by RBT and now that's the added development they have to do. What's stopping RBT to have some resources to join design the rear end of the TR and that can significantly reduced the integration time when RBT ready to take on Honda? I dont think it is as easy as some have alluded to but it may be the real reason why TR is spending more time(resources) on integrating the Honda PU than McLaren is on the Renault PU.
I should make my statement more clear before it gets taken out of context. What I read was the rear end that's supposed to house the Renault unit in TR car was RBT design. I realize what I wrote previously could be read as RBT is helping STR design their honda rear end, that's just my personal educated guess. Since STR was originally going to use RBT's rear end, now having to redesign for Honda, it would make sense RBT has a hand in it.Zynerji wrote: ↑29 Dec 2017, 17:15If RBT is driving the Honda integration at STR, the chances that they are also preparing a RB14H-bspec chassis gathers more credibility, in my eyes. It would make sense to have a mule in testing at the start of 2018, as a change could be done at the beginning of the European rounds, and Tag would just re-badge the Honda instead of the Renault.rogazilla wrote: ↑29 Dec 2017, 15:56I predict McLaren will have higher finishes than TR but TR will score similar amount of points.
One thing interesting was read that Key said TR was going to have the rear end designed by RBT and now that's the added development they have to do. What's stopping RBT to have some resources to join design the rear end of the TR and that can significantly reduced the integration time when RBT ready to take on Honda? I dont think it is as easy as some have alluded to but it may be the real reason why TR is spending more time(resources) on integrating the Honda PU than McLaren is on the Renault PU.
Horner's a smart guy. I'm sure that he has all of his bases covered when such an opportunity to steal a march has presented itself. Full factory backing with RBR's aero department and budget would be hard to beat, and I'm sure that is the goal.
