AMEN!Jolle wrote: ↑09 Jan 2018, 13:05Fingers crossed that the MCL33 won't become a array of small and different coloured sponsor stickers...dren wrote: ↑09 Jan 2018, 13:01The guy is a good salesman, let's see if he can deliver. My guess is they'll revert back to the black car with a bit of orange and some sponsors. Mclaren need to improve their pit performance if they start battling it out with the top three. That can mean positions in a race.
In one of EB's interviews I read he stated that Pit Stops was an area of focus this year.dren wrote: ↑09 Jan 2018, 13:01The guy is a good salesman, let's see if he can deliver. My guess is they'll revert back to the black car with a bit of orange and some sponsors. Mclaren need to improve their pit performance if they start battling it out with the top three. That can mean positions in a race.
#aerogollumturbof1 wrote: YOU SHALL NOT......STALLLLL!!!
a page back (2 actually), there's actually a Mclaren "Senna" tribute livery in the colors of his helmet,
Yeah for 30 years but they jumped ship to Red Bull after the 2015 disaster.Manoah2u wrote: ↑09 Jan 2018, 20:04a page back (2 actually), there's actually a Mclaren "Senna" tribute livery in the colors of his helmet,
and funny enough there's a actual street Mclaren called Senna.
I must say i'm very curious about this sponsor and whether it is Petrobras or not, as it indeed seems that it'll weigh a lot into the livery decision, and exactly that aspect has been mentioned by Zak even before the final race(s) that they are seriously concidering having the indy livery as the F1 livery for 2018, and not too long ago he has repeated the high possibility of having a (fully) orange livery - so it's really interesting to read these statements.
A question though - has there been any indication whatsoever if Mclaren is going to badge their Renault engines differently? it's rather ironic that RedBull is having TagHeuer, wasn't this Mclaren's sponsor a while ago?
Imagine them changing the pit guys with robot arms for changing the tyres . Now that would be ground braking, a fresh wind like first Brabham refueling during the race.
That train has gotten away. Now they can only name it MCL33 Prost
there's no way robots will do that job better and/or faster. the 2 second pitstops are just mindblowingly well coordinated, are something of phenomenal speed and strenght, adaptive abilities, responsive, and responsible.
the TAG investment group (Ojjeh) owns 25% of McLaren and had the Heuer brand as well. After they sold off the watch brand, it went to RedBull.McHonda wrote: ↑09 Jan 2018, 20:20Yeah for 30 years but they jumped ship to Red Bull after the 2015 disaster.Manoah2u wrote: ↑09 Jan 2018, 20:04a page back (2 actually), there's actually a Mclaren "Senna" tribute livery in the colors of his helmet,
and funny enough there's a actual street Mclaren called Senna.
I must say i'm very curious about this sponsor and whether it is Petrobras or not, as it indeed seems that it'll weigh a lot into the livery decision, and exactly that aspect has been mentioned by Zak even before the final race(s) that they are seriously concidering having the indy livery as the F1 livery for 2018, and not too long ago he has repeated the high possibility of having a (fully) orange livery - so it's really interesting to read these statements.
A question though - has there been any indication whatsoever if Mclaren is going to badge their Renault engines differently? it's rather ironic that RedBull is having TagHeuer, wasn't this Mclaren's sponsor a while ago?
I haven't heard any re-branding talk and I doubt they will. Red Bull were falling out with Renault when they did it, or relations were strained shall we say, and McLaren are if anything grateful to Renault so no reason to stick 2 fingers up at them by re-branding it.
Translated with Google.With Renault engines for the 2018 season, McLaren will be a very different car from last year's model. But the innovations in the Woking team do not end there. According to the boss of the team, Zak Brown, in addition to the car, the team's brand will also undergo radical visual changes.
- The car will not be the same as last year. Our entire brand, the face of McLaren, will rise to a new level. And it will be fantastic. We already know how some teams will look, but hopefully the biggest changes seen, on and off the track, is when McLaren arrives in Australia.
Brown, who took over the team in place of Ron Dennis, has always been open to change. No wonder, it was the American who rescued the orange - with classic McLaren - in the cars of the team in 2017. It was also the project of Zak Fernando Alonso's participation in the 500 Miles. And if it depends on the manager, the team, which has been bitter for years at the bottom of the table, will return to be reference in the paddock, either in results or in the visual.
"One of the things we have not done in recent years is leading. Looking at our garage and everything, we look like everyone else. So we need to change that to be the people in Australia where everyone looks and says, "Did you see what McLaren did?" This is part of McLaren. With the lack of competitiveness, we end up becoming more of the same. We need to go back to being a team that people envy. I feel we are on the way.
Brown also commented on the possibility of the 2018 car appearing in the classic papaya orange, as he used in the Indy 500 model, noting that this depends on the team's main sponsor.
- You will have something of our history, but we have not finished design yet because we depend on the sponsor issue.
It is noteworthy that the British team has not yet set the launch date of the car this season.
I thought they(TAG) sold it in 1999?Jolle wrote: ↑09 Jan 2018, 22:09the TAG investment group (Ojjeh) owns 25% of McLaren and had the Heuer brand as well. After they sold off the watch brand, it went to RedBull.McHonda wrote: ↑09 Jan 2018, 20:20Yeah for 30 years but they jumped ship to Red Bull after the 2015 disaster.Manoah2u wrote: ↑09 Jan 2018, 20:04
a page back (2 actually), there's actually a Mclaren "Senna" tribute livery in the colors of his helmet,
and funny enough there's a actual street Mclaren called Senna.
I must say i'm very curious about this sponsor and whether it is Petrobras or not, as it indeed seems that it'll weigh a lot into the livery decision, and exactly that aspect has been mentioned by Zak even before the final race(s) that they are seriously concidering having the indy livery as the F1 livery for 2018, and not too long ago he has repeated the high possibility of having a (fully) orange livery - so it's really interesting to read these statements.
A question though - has there been any indication whatsoever if Mclaren is going to badge their Renault engines differently? it's rather ironic that RedBull is having TagHeuer, wasn't this Mclaren's sponsor a while ago?
I haven't heard any re-branding talk and I doubt they will. Red Bull were falling out with Renault when they did it, or relations were strained shall we say, and McLaren are if anything grateful to Renault so no reason to stick 2 fingers up at them by re-branding it.