Haas VF-18 Ferrari

[f1316]

Question is, who can they beat to move up?

- personally i’d put money on TR coming last - I suppose we’ll see if Honda get their act together in time to prevent that

-with Sauber you have the question over what’s more valuable: getting a lot of parts from Ferrari (Sauber insist on doing it themselves) or getting whatever help Alfa brings with it? I put Ericsson down as weakest of the drivers, so that could swing it

- other than that, I don’t see who they’re beating; maybe Williams if they take time to adapt to what’s supposed to be a very different concept (not to mention their driver lineup...), but I still think it’s unlikely they overhaul either them or FI and I personally expect Renault and McLaren to slot in close to the top three


So whilst I think Haas will continue to have respectable and impressive-for-a-new-team pace, I can’t see how they really move anywhere. Maybe 8th again is succes?

[NathanOlder]

Yeah, Totally agree. It just shows the strength of the current field.

Maybe an extra points system for the privateer teams would give them something realistic to aim at. Like in MotoGP they have/had the top independent award, and the highest place private team in each race should get to go up on the podium. It gives these guys something to really aim at.

[Ashwinv16]

The overall design although complex many parts such as the rear wings are a carryover from last year, but then this is a rendering, more changes in testing.
Notice the Haas clearly uses the entire 5 degree allowance for the exhaust and a more aggressively angled gearbox cover, effectively minimising the lose of the monkey seat.(Well they can't be placed behind the exhaust anymore, but this rule also is part of the reason that opened up to the use of lower T-wing) The shark fin also comes much further away from the engine cover than intended due to Article 3.5.1c.


The biggest surprise is the side pods. Complex if not more than the Ferrari and the side impact structure is placed lower like Ferrari's last year's design but it is much clearer in this design as it is abruptly cut off unlike Ferrari's 2017 design which was smoothly countered and covered

Ferrari's design

Red arrow showing the side impact structure positioning and green arrow showing how it fit through


The side pod turning vanes (Well deflectors in this case now as they have been focusing on deflecting the air coming from the inner surface of Bargeboards and nose cone (Redbull last year still focused on making the air flow along the sidepods, while Haas and Ferrari focused on making the air flow above the sidepods). Although interesting is pretty much an efficient version to the more crude version they had last year.
2018

2017


They also reduced the size of the delta wings(The wings attached to the nosecone), as the reshaped sidepod airflow conditioners is now higher than last years sidepod intake. (Moved it from the speculation thread)

[Vanja #66]

This post is already in the Car thread, moved with a lot of other posts from the Speculation thread.

forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=26857&start=15#p737791

[Blackout]

Those multiple 'l' shaped louvres underneath the BB look like the Renault ones but they're bigger and open ended at the front similar to the STR style rear endplate louvres. I like em

https://i.redd.it/cpedjk8kn8uz.jpg

[adrianjordan]

Yeah, Totally agree. It just shows the strength of the current field.

Maybe an extra points system for the privateer teams would give them something realistic to aim at. Like in MotoGP they have/had the top independent award, and the highest place private team in each race should get to go up on the podium. It gives these guys something to really aim at.

Problem is, Red Bull Racing and Mclaren would easily fit in as private teams...so that doesn't leave much for the rest...

[Vanja #66]

Batman cape on VF-18 as well? Seeing Williams and, seemingly, Haas adopt it, could we see it on the red car as well?

[DVB]

Batman cape on VF-18 as well? Seeing Williams and, seemingly, Haas adopt it, could we see it on the red car as well?

I believe they added the batman cape during 2016 season. But skipped it last year.

[Vanja #66]

Haas or Ferrari? There was a "bat wing" on Ferrari, but it was something completely different.

[DVB]

Haas or Ferrari? There was a "bat wing" on Ferrari, but it was something completely different.

Ferrari.. Let me have a search where I try to find it and show it. Give some hours spitting thru the forum

[Vanja #66]

Ferrari.. Let me have a search where I try to find it and show it. Give some hours spitting thru the forum

This?

[DVB]

Ferrari.. Let me have a search where I try to find it and show it. Give some hours spitting thru the forum

This?

https://media.licdn.com/mpr/mpr/AAEAAQA ... ZDQzNA.jpg

No, it was smaller. Looking in the SF16h thread atm

[DVB]

Haas or Ferrari? There was a "bat wing" on Ferrari, but it was something completely different.

This one

[Vanja #66]

This one
https://cdn-5.motorsport.com/images/amp ... t-wing.jpg

Yeah, that's the original bat wing. Thanks for reminding me! I don't think it has much similarities with last year's W07 "bat cape", it's much smaller, much more aggressive, it's not joined with the nose-cone...

[GM7]

The 2018 side view is not perfect but i tried to have a first impression.