More details about McLaren's technical leadership changes are becoming public as it has now become clear that Toro Rosso's highly valued technical director, James Key, is set to join McLaren in the same role.
Are you sure this interview is not from 2015? A bit of déjavu saying that everything is all right before AustraliaXero wrote:I like this one point Alonso brought up in his interview;
“The issues we have, they are well under control. Unfortunately we keep discovering small things every day but that I think is putting us in a strong position for Australia in the way that we are reinforcing all the small issues.”
If they have a flawless last two days I'm sure they'll be in good shape.
Well, I hope he's proven right. Would still like to see them do more mileage and put some quick times in. Thanks for the link, by the way.GoranF1 wrote: ↑07 Mar 2018, 20:43Here is one but there were more quotes for Spanish media that are missing here
https://www.racefans.net/2018/03/07/alo ... -last-day/
The old McLaren would have tested 50 days before the start of the season. It's not like McLaren has a perfect history, remember the McLaren MP4-18.
Should we bring back Ron Dennis and paint everything grey then?
NO! paint it red and white and sign N.Prost and B.Senna . the world would stop to look.
Mercedes is running the same engine that they designed for their car, McLaren are running a Renault engine for the first time.GoranF1 wrote: ↑07 Mar 2018, 21:41
About the car, people say its better to have the problems now and not Australia, are they trying to say Mclaren are better placed than the teams who have had no problems ?
Mercedes have had pretty much no problem, so they know they can run an average of 100 laps a day without fault. maybe they will run in to problems when they do another 300 laps over the next 2 days.Then they will know about problems caused by 1000ish laps. Mclaren have had loads of problems running 355 laps. They wont get to know of any problems when running 5, 6, 700 laps. So its not in any way good to have problems now! It is definitely NOT better to have no problems now. Its better to have no problems and run a long hard test program.
Why am I a troll? For doing a sarcastic post based on the reasoning explained by Boullier, last few years they didn't have time for pit stops because so many problems, this week for whatever reason or problem they haven't run much and mechanics have been focusing in resolving the problems. So they probably if we follow Boullier argument they don't have time for pit stops practices.
Some people are just taking themselves too seriously.Redragon wrote: ↑07 Mar 2018, 22:26Why am I a troll? For doing a sarcastic post based on the reasoning explained by Boullier, last few years they didn't have time for pit stops because so many problems, this week for whatever reason or problem they haven't run much and mechanics have been focusing in resolving the problems. So they probably if we follow Boullier argument they have time for pit stops practices.
But having these problems now does not mean they will not have different problems come the first race. In fact, the less miles they run the more likely there are to be problems they have not yet encountered.Giblet wrote: ↑07 Mar 2018, 22:12Mercedes is running the same engine that they designed for their car, McLaren are running a Renault engine for the first time.GoranF1 wrote: ↑07 Mar 2018, 21:41
About the car, people say its better to have the problems now and not Australia, are they trying to say Mclaren are better placed than the teams who have had no problems ?
Mercedes have had pretty much no problem, so they know they can run an average of 100 laps a day without fault. maybe they will run in to problems when they do another 300 laps over the next 2 days.Then they will know about problems caused by 1000ish laps. Mclaren have had loads of problems running 355 laps. They wont get to know of any problems when running 5, 6, 700 laps. So its not in any way good to have problems now! It is definitely NOT better to have no problems now. Its better to have no problems and run a long hard test program.
This doom and gloom is getting boring and old. Red Bull showed up in 2015, nev er having mated the engine to the car. They could not get it started. It stayed in the garage for most of both tests, where they drilled holes in it to keep it running. Then when the season started, their fuel additive ate the orings in the fuel flow sensors, causing failures.
They won three races.
> So its not in any way good to have problems now!
YES IT IS. If you think you have the car sorted, the it goes boom with new issues in Australia, now you are behind IN THE SEASON and not just in testing. You don't lose points in testing do you now? Instead of developing the car, they are still figuring it out. That is 100000% what testing is for. To find issues and get mileage.
This is the same McLaren that showed up with Octopus exhaust in testing, then showed up with titanium diffuser and more similar exhaust to the others and won races that season as well.
Saying finding this out when the season started is not only illogical, it's ridiculously illogical.
This is not the same McLaren as in 2012 in any way. Pretty much everyone who had a leading role in the development of that car is gone. It’s the same story with people saying McLaren can’t build a good car, because they couldn’t beat Mercedes with a Mercedes engine either. As if nothing has changed since then..Giblet wrote: ↑07 Mar 2018, 22:12This is the same McLaren that showed up with Octopus exhaust in testing, then showed up with titanium diffuser and more similar exhaust to the others and won races that season as well.GoranF1 wrote: ↑07 Mar 2018, 21:41
About the car, people say its better to have the problems now and not Australia, are they trying to say Mclaren are better placed than the teams who have had no problems ?
Mercedes have had pretty much no problem, so they know they can run an average of 100 laps a day without fault. maybe they will run in to problems when they do another 300 laps over the next 2 days.Then they will know about problems caused by 1000ish laps. Mclaren have had loads of problems running 355 laps. They wont get to know of any problems when running 5, 6, 700 laps. So its not in any way good to have problems now! It is definitely NOT better to have no problems now. Its better to have no problems and run a long hard test program.
I agree (and Mclaren will as well) that they are lagging behind their program now but to doom them for the rest of the year is a bit extreme. People seem to forget that they did 160 laps on Friday and did more laps than RB in Test 1. Its possible that they isolated all their issues, have a genuinely fast car that will get faster with the Melbourne spec bolted on and can challenge for the podium. Or this can be the top of a slide into a terrible season. We simply wont know until everyone lines up in OzMcL-H wrote: ↑07 Mar 2018, 23:10This is not the same McLaren as in 2012 in any way. Pretty much everyone who had a leading role in the development of that car is gone. It’s the same story with people saying McLaren can’t build a good car, because they couldn’t beat Mercedes with a Mercedes engine either. As if nothing has changed since then..Giblet wrote: ↑07 Mar 2018, 22:12This is the same McLaren that showed up with Octopus exhaust in testing, then showed up with titanium diffuser and more similar exhaust to the others and won races that season as well.GoranF1 wrote: ↑07 Mar 2018, 21:41
About the car, people say its better to have the problems now and not Australia, are they trying to say Mclaren are better placed than the teams who have had no problems ?
Mercedes have had pretty much no problem, so they know they can run an average of 100 laps a day without fault. maybe they will run in to problems when they do another 300 laps over the next 2 days.Then they will know about problems caused by 1000ish laps. Mclaren have had loads of problems running 355 laps. They wont get to know of any problems when running 5, 6, 700 laps. So its not in any way good to have problems now! It is definitely NOT better to have no problems now. Its better to have no problems and run a long hard test program.
To the other point of your post. McLaren are way behind on their testing program and will not have enough knowledge of the car come Melbourne. Competition meanwhile could run their program without problems, have found weaknesses in their packages and are further in finding the right setups. McLaren will have to find out about their car in-season. They are lagging behind and will do so for the remainder of the year. Conclusion: not good.
