More details about McLaren's technical leadership changes are becoming public as it has now become clear that Toro Rosso's highly valued technical director, James Key, is set to join McLaren in the same role.
That's promising. Keeping the Hypersofts alive for so long with respectable Lap Times is quite good.
#aerogollumturbof1 wrote: YOU SHALL NOT......STALLLLL!!!
still not a single aero development part...pretty good basis then.
Well Prodromou siad that the car in Melbourne will look dramatically different, I just hope this heating issues are not changing their plans, coz its probably too late to produce revised parts now for the first race
Perhaps PP knew something even about the heat pockets ...
Nope, noting of that sort, the problem with heat pocket can only be found when the car is actually on track.If you go back and read the statements made they advised well in advance that they will use a ''basic'' configuration for testing and that they were working for 2 months on the major update for Melbourne. The reason is, the late decision of the engine change and the fact that they were already 2 weeks behind schedule in development.cyclon wrote: ↑08 Mar 2018, 11:25Perhaps PP knew something even about the heat pockets ...
I agree, i just meant that he knew they went from most aggressive to conservative way than from conservative to aggressive.bauc wrote: ↑08 Mar 2018, 11:28Nope, noting of that sort, the problem with heat pocket can only be found when the car is actually on track.If you go back and read the statements made they advised well in advance that they will use a ''basic'' configuration for testing and that they were working for 2 months on the major update for Melbourne. The reason is, the late decision of the engine change and the fact that they were already 2 weeks behind schedule in development.
From what I've heard, it takes around 3 to 6 weeks for design and production of one part, depending of the complexity, the materials used, ect
Did he? I think he said they have a "decent" upgrade package for Melbourne. I might be wrong but I dont remember anything about saying "look dramatically different".
I agree with you, in a way.carisi2k wrote: ↑08 Mar 2018, 11:35Mclaren haven't been aggressive. Aggressive is what the rb14 with those tiny side pods and air intakes are. What Mclaren has done is build an extremely restrictive chassis. Mclaren are nowhere near the top 3 in performance and their problem at the moment is that they think they are somewhere that they are not. Those of you who say that the STR is built with plenty of spare room are kidding themselves. The airbox might be a little bigger to cater for the halo but the rest of the package is just as tight as the other midfield teams. They along with Mercedes last year introduced the higher front suspension setup and there are lots of nice details which I will leave for the STR13 thread.
My point is that sometimes you have to walk before you can run and mclaren are not in a position to run at the moment. They don't have 10+ years experience with Renault that Red Bull have. They are no longer a factory outfit like Renault and going the STR route is not such a bad idea especially when you see the laptimes, stints and total laps that car is doing.
In concluding I believe that Mclaren's problem is that they think they have an mp4/4 in the garage when in fact they have an mp4/9 in the garage.
We have no idea of relative performance. Not until Melburn qualy.carisi2k wrote: ↑08 Mar 2018, 11:35Mclaren haven't been aggressive. Aggressive is what the rb14 with those tiny side pods and air intakes are. What Mclaren has done is build an extremely restrictive chassis. Mclaren are nowhere near the top 3 in performance and their problem at the moment is that they think they are somewhere that they are not.
I do remember the "dramatically" word !makecry wrote: ↑08 Mar 2018, 11:40Did he? I think he said they have a "decent" upgrade package for Melbourne. I might be wrong but I dont remember anything about saying "look dramatically different".
You are a bit too harsh..radosav wrote: ↑08 Mar 2018, 11:42I agree with you, in a way.carisi2k wrote: ↑08 Mar 2018, 11:35Mclaren haven't been aggressive. Aggressive is what the rb14 with those tiny side pods and air intakes are. What Mclaren has done is build an extremely restrictive chassis. Mclaren are nowhere near the top 3 in performance and their problem at the moment is that they think they are somewhere that they are not. Those of you who say that the STR is built with plenty of spare room are kidding themselves. The airbox might be a little bigger to cater for the halo but the rest of the package is just as tight as the other midfield teams. They along with Mercedes last year introduced the higher front suspension setup and there are lots of nice details which I will leave for the STR13 thread.
My point is that sometimes you have to walk before you can run and mclaren are not in a position to run at the moment. They don't have 10+ years experience with Renault that Red Bull have. They are no longer a factory outfit like Renault and going the STR route is not such a bad idea especially when you see the laptimes, stints and total laps that car is doing.
In concluding I believe that Mclaren's problem is that they think they have an mp4/4 in the garage when in fact they have an mp4/9 in the garage.
They behave like they are running, while they are actualy walking compared to top three teams.
It happens when you start to walk after three years of limping.
