Why are there no topics or sections about the drivers?

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Why are there no topics or sections about the drivers?

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Why?
Are they looked at as not significant enough to warrant discussion about....character, training regime, history, contract matrices etc, contribution to the team or development and why etc etc
These things are mentioned spasmodically but they are solid enough for their own discussion.

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Take a look at the name of the site. It should give you a hint about what the intent of the topics on this forum are.

If you can't talk technically about it, you don't post it here.

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what moose said basically.

also, it has crossed the administrator/moderators mind several times, i have even proposed something similar to team threads. but the simple fact is, it'll only end in 1 thing;
fanboi haterism all-out war over nothing. no need for that.

simply put; there's already gpupdate, f1today, and stuff like that for that, please, leave it there and dont bring those people here.
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Re: Why are there no topics or sections about the drivers?

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Moose wrote: ↑
18 Mar 2018, 16:39
Take a look at the name of the site. It should give you a hint about what the intent of the topics on this forum are.

If you can't talk technically about it, you don't post it here.
About as incorrect as it can get: 1.General chat.(Post here all non technical related topics about Formula One. This includes race results, discussions, testing analysis etc.)
2. Off topic chat (Post anything that doesn't belong in any other forum, including gaming and topics unrelated to motorsport.)
3. So far the cars don't drive themselves.

If you can't get it right, don't post at all.

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Re: Why are there no topics or sections about the drivers?

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The short answer would be, because some people act like petulant twelve year olds when it comes to discussing drivers.
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johnny comelately wrote: ↑
18 Mar 2018, 15:26
Why?
Are they looked at as not significant enough to warrant discussion about....character, training regime, history, contract matrices etc, contribution to the team or development and why etc etc
These things are mentioned spasmodically but they are solid enough for their own discussion.
Driver worship/bashing threads were banned years ago. The only driver threads remaining are the rookie driver prospect threads, silly season threads and a few technical ability/driving style threads.
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Re: Why are there no topics or sections about the drivers?

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I am really pleased there are no driver threads. Repeatedly other threads are cluttered with rubbish opinionated posts about drivers. They clutter this site terribly.

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PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑
18 Mar 2018, 17:43
johnny comelately wrote: ↑
18 Mar 2018, 15:26
Why?
Are they looked at as not significant enough to warrant discussion about....character, training regime, history, contract matrices etc, contribution to the team or development and why etc etc
These things are mentioned spasmodically but they are solid enough for their own discussion.
Driver worship/bashing threads were banned years ago. The only driver threads remaining are the rookie driver prospect threads, silly season threads and a few technical ability/driving style threads.
Not effectively banned, but dans79's pretty much nailed it. The fact that there is little to no evidence to anything that is discussed in a driver topic, usually makes it end up in a fan match. And that, we don't need or want.

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Here you can see why..

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That's a shame.
I dont agree with this "policy" as there is so much that the drivers relate to because it is also a World Drivers Championship.
Not having any worthwhile discussion because of the lowest common denominator is not in the interests of everyone being able to learn about the effect of drivers on the sport, it is not as though they are not a factor.
My thoughts were how collectively there would be more information available from numerous sources as there is with the technical side.
It struck me when listening to Freddie Spencer discussing the psyche of different riders and how it absolutely affects results. And exactly the same influences occur with F1.
It is interesting to compare what is focussed on with other race series,eg , NASCAR only drivers; Motogp mainly the pilots: WRC mainly the drivers; WEC mainly brands...

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I think there should be a clear separation between chats that are meant to be based specifically on facts, to comply with the very nature of this forum and "other stuff". I can understand, that driver threads have a natural tendency to lean towards the latter. Though it doesn't necessarily mean there can't be a room for a) separate chat for opinion based discussions, to let of some steam b) driver threats with more analitical approach, with more strict moderation to not let it get emotional. Without such clearly defined room where opinion/emotion based debates could be contained, those will spill over other threads and pop up in often completely wrong places. I think with such great people posting here, the usual, very high standards can be maintained in driver related discussions in the "serious" part of the forum, when a buffer for "less serious" is in place to let people share their feelings.

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It's not even worth opening a thread and encouraging everyone to bring facts. There are literally hundreds, thousands of threads out there where you can debate which driver is better, ad nauseum.
Just like if you want F1 to be standardised there are dozens of other series with control tyres, engines, chassis etc.

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Sadly the team threads are bad enough when it comes to fanboy-ism, I can only imagine how bad driver threads would be.
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johnny comelately wrote: ↑
18 Mar 2018, 18:27
That's a shame.
I dont agree with this "policy" as there is so much that the drivers relate to because it is also a World Drivers Championship.
There are other forums available on the web if you want to go and argue about drivers. By all means avail yourself of one or more of those. We'll stay here being boring and talk about the cars. Everyone wins. 8)
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johnny comelately wrote: ↑
18 Mar 2018, 15:26
Why?
Are they looked at as not significant enough to warrant discussion about....character, training regime, history, contract matrices etc, contribution to the team or development and why etc etc
These things are mentioned spasmodically but they are solid enough for their own discussion.
Over in the MotoGP thread you said:
johnny comelately wrote: ↑
18 Mar 2018, 15:33
It brings up the old question, (in races) : in the troglodyte years Cars were 80% car and 20% driver with bikes being the opposite, what are the percentages now? Cars = 90% car 10% driver; Bikes 40% bike and 60% rider
Does that answer your question?
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