2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

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Same here!! I guess Alonso will have lots of new fans from now on. :D

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Cancelled my autosport.com subscription. Thanks Zak Brown and Alonso. :lol:

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Vasconia wrote:
27 Mar 2018, 14:24
Same here!! I guess Alonso will have lots of new fans from now on. :D
hahah, good move
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Vasconia wrote:
27 Mar 2018, 14:24
Same here!! I guess Alonso will have lots of new fans from now on. :D
Haha, only for three months though...
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godlameroso wrote:
27 Mar 2018, 04:32
https://i.imgur.com/78SmVJ1.jpg

Idea for next update.

:D

Wrong team. Only red bull gives you wings.

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604gtir wrote:
25 Mar 2018, 15:16
Maynard G. Krebs wrote:
24 Mar 2018, 01:43
604gtir wrote:
23 Mar 2018, 22:14


testing aside,
mclaren in melbourne had the one exhaust issue which took a long time to fix, but then ran problem free till end of fp2.

what made them have more problems than anyone else in melbourne?
toro rosso sat in the garage for most of fp1 with an exhaust issue too
one of the hass sat in the garage with plenty of issues
williams broke down in fp2

i think people are just over reacting, exhaust issue fixed.. what other problems did mclaren have ?
"Testing aside."
So maybe next year they could just skip the testing since it apparently isn't important.
Don't get me wrong: I am a McLaren fan, and an Alonso fan. I want them to be better.
hows that testing and million mclaren problems situation coming along for you
It's bittersweet for me. I'm sorry for Haas, but if anyone is going to benefit from their misfortune I am happy that it is McLaren.

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Bisonas wrote:
26 Mar 2018, 21:46
diffuser wrote:
26 Mar 2018, 20:48
Bisonas wrote:
26 Mar 2018, 18:09


Race speeds are never useless If you know what to look for. You can discard the useless and artificial information but you can also find useful information on them on each race. Thats why we have them in the first place.
Now if you personally find them useless, you can just discard my post. Don't try to make others that can find some useful information on them wrong.
So what does that tell you about a specific cars characteristics ?
I think i already said what those race speeds tells me,and i also explained my logic behind it. You only have to read it a few posts back.
On AUS track, Renault engines using their race modes, wheren't lacking too much top speed, compare to Ferrari engines using race modes. And i speak about Ferrari because Vetel Raikonen and Alonso where running on free air, and all their speeds where in the same range without none of them having DRS. I am not speaking about downforce levels,car setup,drag, cornering speed or traction. We can't possible know how much downforce each car is running, or how much drag it has, but what ever the setups, Renault engines could stand their ground, and possible defend against Ferrari engines. If you ask me if Vetel was behind Alonso, he wouldn't be able to pass him. Thats for AUS.

Now you tell me, what Qualifying speed charts tell you, about Sundays race, when they are using engine modes, that will never use in the race??
The---------	Finish	Speed	
Driver------	Line	Trap	Diff
Vandoorne	302.0	308.0	6.0
Fer Alonzo	299.8	309.8	10.0
Car Sainz	301.0	310.4	9.4
Hulkenburg	301.3	309.9	8.6
Ricciardo	299.2	311.1	11.9
Verstappen	301.0	312.5	11.5
Based on that I think Vandoorne was running more wing than Alonzo. that's why he's faster than Alo at the finished line but slower at the speed trap.

it looks like Renault's Downforce is higher and a little more efficient than Mclaren's and RBR is even better

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http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/43562369
Updates in bahrain and china. New nose in barcelona.

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radosav wrote:
27 Mar 2018, 22:29
http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/43562369
Updates in bahrain and china. New nose in barcelona.
I don't know if it's just me, but Eric didn't exactly exude confidence, almost sounding doubtful..
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radosav wrote:
27 Mar 2018, 22:29
http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/43562369
Updates in bahrain and china. New nose in barcelona.
Honest interview. They are just down because of a lack of resources and that's why they need a good year. I really hope some big brand is gonna bring McLaren back to the place they belong. F1 just needs a budget cap, it should have been getting better in the last couple of years, but the gaps are still gigantic.

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Ground Effect wrote:
27 Mar 2018, 23:27
radosav wrote:
27 Mar 2018, 22:29
http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/43562369
Updates in bahrain and china. New nose in barcelona.
I don't know if it's just me, but Eric didn't exactly exude confidence, almost sounding doubtful..
Well maybe he is trying to justify their deficit to red bull now when they have same engine and after claiming that they have one of the best chassis on grid.

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radosav wrote:
27 Mar 2018, 23:36
Ground Effect wrote:
27 Mar 2018, 23:27
radosav wrote:
27 Mar 2018, 22:29
http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/43562369
Updates in bahrain and china. New nose in barcelona.
I don't know if it's just me, but Eric didn't exactly exude confidence, almost sounding doubtful..
Well maybe he is trying to justify their deficit to red bull now when they have same engine and after claiming that they have one of the best chassis on grid.

It might be one of the best chassis on the circuit with a Honda engine. The Renault PU might have changed things. It's simple logic. There is enough evidence to prove their chassis was a decent one last year especially the performance on tracks like Hungary. The fact that they are able to match Renault's works team with a compromised MCL33 which is weeks behind schedule is enough proof that they have a good car.

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makecry wrote:
28 Mar 2018, 01:05
radosav wrote:
27 Mar 2018, 23:36
Ground Effect wrote:
27 Mar 2018, 23:27


I don't know if it's just me, but Eric didn't exactly exude confidence, almost sounding doubtful..
Well maybe he is trying to justify their deficit to red bull now when they have same engine and after claiming that they have one of the best chassis on grid.

It might be one of the best chassis on the circuit with a Honda engine. The Renault PU might have changed things. It's simple logic. There is enough evidence to prove their chassis was a decent one last year especially the performance on tracks like Hungary. The fact that they are able to match Renault's works team with a compromised MCL33 which is weeks behind schedule is enough proof that they have a good car.
I thought Mexico was pretty impressive, especially in sector two.

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RonDennis wrote:
28 Mar 2018, 01:23
makecry wrote:
28 Mar 2018, 01:05
radosav wrote:
27 Mar 2018, 23:36

Well maybe he is trying to justify their deficit to red bull now when they have same engine and after claiming that they have one of the best chassis on grid.

It might be one of the best chassis on the circuit with a Honda engine. The Renault PU might have changed things. It's simple logic. There is enough evidence to prove their chassis was a decent one last year especially the performance on tracks like Hungary. The fact that they are able to match Renault's works team with a compromised MCL33 which is weeks behind schedule is enough proof that they have a good car.
I thought Mexico was pretty impressive, especially in sector two.

Their P4 in Q1 was so good that even with that time they would have gone through in Q3. I have no doubts about MCL32. MCL33 is still a toss up but it's true pace wont be realized till european season.

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That article had great detail but the tone was so negative - almost baiting Eric. I don't think the British media have it out for any other team like they do for Mclaren for some reason. The team set a target for the season but they are being grilled about taking somewhat short in Race 1...ridiculous