Safety good.Andres125sx wrote: ↑15 Apr 2018, 08:14And that is bad or good? I mean, safety is so good they can assume more risks than they did in past days.... do you really think that´s bad?
Impertinence bad.
Safety good.Andres125sx wrote: ↑15 Apr 2018, 08:14And that is bad or good? I mean, safety is so good they can assume more risks than they did in past days.... do you really think that´s bad?
Impertinence??johnny comelately wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 23:32Safety good.Andres125sx wrote: ↑15 Apr 2018, 08:14And that is bad or good? I mean, safety is so good they can assume more risks than they did in past days.... do you really think that´s bad?
Impertinence bad.
I don´t think for a moment Rossi was aiming the brake lever, while racing on a corner, hitting the bike is difficult enough to aim some part of it.J.A.W. wrote: ↑17 Apr 2018, 02:09Whatever.. as the kids say, Nathan..
For sure, & without fear of contradiction, the telemetry record shows that Rossi's 'putting the boot in'
directly & deliberately caused - the hard brake application of M.M.'s machine - & the subsequent crash..
I think you seriously underestimate Rossi's skills, & guile, in 'doing the dirty dog'.
Yes.Andres125sx wrote: ↑17 Apr 2018, 08:52Impertinence??johnny comelately wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 23:32Safety good.Andres125sx wrote: ↑15 Apr 2018, 08:14And that is bad or good? I mean, safety is so good they can assume more risks than they did in past days.... do you really think that´s bad?
Impertinence bad.
An aggressive rider going flat out and doing some mistakes is impertinence in your eyes?
And where did you see said telemetry? As far as I recall they never went public with the actual telemetry did they?J.A.W. wrote: ↑17 Apr 2018, 02:09Whatever.. as the kids say, Nathan..
For sure, & without fear of contradiction, the telemetry record shows that Rossi's 'putting the boot in'
directly & deliberately caused - the hard brake application of M.M.'s machine - & the subsequent crash..
I think you seriously underestimate Rossi's skills, & guile, in 'doing the dirty dog'.
Sure, because I want aggressive riders, even if they make mistakes and I will never call them impertinent. I didn´t with Simoncelli before his fatal accident, despite he crashed and caused more crashes than Marquez so yes, let´s agree to disagreejohnny comelately wrote: ↑17 Apr 2018, 10:14Yes.Andres125sx wrote: ↑17 Apr 2018, 08:52Impertinence??
An aggressive rider going flat out and doing some mistakes is impertinence in your eyes?
I can see we are not going to agree on this, so I hope we can agree to disagree.
Exactly.Andres125sx wrote: ↑17 Apr 2018, 08:58I don´t think for a moment Rossi was aiming the brake lever, while racing on a corner, hitting the bike is difficult enough to aim some part of it.J.A.W. wrote: ↑17 Apr 2018, 02:09Whatever.. as the kids say, Nathan..
For sure, & without fear of contradiction, the telemetry record shows that Rossi's 'putting the boot in'
directly & deliberately caused - the hard brake application of M.M.'s machine - & the subsequent crash..
I think you seriously underestimate Rossi's skills, & guile, in 'doing the dirty dog'.
digitalrurouni wrote: ↑17 Apr 2018, 15:39And where did you see said telemetry? As far as I recall they never went public with the actual telemetry did they?J.A.W. wrote: ↑17 Apr 2018, 02:09Whatever.. as the kids say, Nathan..
For sure, & without fear of contradiction, the telemetry record shows that Rossi's 'putting the boot in'
directly & deliberately caused - the hard brake application of M.M.'s machine - & the subsequent crash..
I think you seriously underestimate Rossi's skills, & guile, in 'doing the dirty dog'.
Nah, Nathan..NathanOlder wrote: ↑17 Apr 2018, 22:24Exactly.Andres125sx wrote: ↑17 Apr 2018, 08:58I don´t think for a moment Rossi was aiming the brake lever, while racing on a corner, hitting the bike is difficult enough to aim some part of it.J.A.W. wrote: ↑17 Apr 2018, 02:09Whatever.. as the kids say, Nathan..
For sure, & without fear of contradiction, the telemetry record shows that Rossi's 'putting the boot in'
directly & deliberately caused - the hard brake application of M.M.'s machine - & the subsequent crash..
I think you seriously underestimate Rossi's skills, & guile, in 'doing the dirty dog'.
I'm just arguing the point that people (not you) say Rossi purposely kicked the Honda brake lever! When he kicked , he wasnt even looking at the honda. Add to the fact Marquez had fingers on the brake lever, and the brake lever guard!
Rossi kicked Marquez on the arm, and in turn it caused Marquez to apply a little extra force on the brake lever and down he went. All Rossi's fault 100%. Rossi kicked Marquez just after they made contact, It was
clear as day that Rossi kicked out as a reaction to the contact yet some still sit here saying,
"Rossi kicked Marquez brake lever, and thats what he set out to do"
Just think about that, If Rossi set out to do it, it means he thought about it, and as big as Rossi is, he would see that doing that could/would involve a penalty. Rossi was 11pts in front going in to this race! If he kicked Lorenzo while trailing Lorenzo on points, it would be a little more believable.
I cant see how anyone can see this differently today. After all the replays ect ect, some saying things like
"I think you seriously underestimate Rossi's skills, & guile, in 'doing the dirty dog'." is a joke surely ???
I googled around a bit and it seemed the FIM wanted that not Dorna. Why the heck would they not release that data? LAME! All this could have been sorted out if that data came out and showed the reason for Marc going down. However Marc is not entirely without blame at Sepang. Anyway that's my last post on this topic. I learned something new though!J.A.W. wrote: ↑18 Apr 2018, 06:46digitalrurouni wrote: ↑17 Apr 2018, 15:39And where did you see said telemetry? As far as I recall they never went public with the actual telemetry did they?J.A.W. wrote: ↑17 Apr 2018, 02:09Whatever.. as the kids say, Nathan..
For sure, & without fear of contradiction, the telemetry record shows that Rossi's 'putting the boot in'
directly & deliberately caused - the hard brake application of M.M.'s machine - & the subsequent crash..
I think you seriously underestimate Rossi's skills, & guile, in 'doing the dirty dog'.
Nakamura-san wanted to release it.. Dorna said no..
Andre, I send you this in good faith because I thought it may interest you, the days of a little less impertinence , but I haven t watched it all, so maybe....Andres125sx wrote: ↑17 Apr 2018, 16:58Sure, because I want aggressive riders, even if they make mistakes and I will never call them impertinent. I didn´t with Simoncelli before his fatal accident, despite he crashed and caused more crashes than Marquez so yes, let´s agree to disagreejohnny comelately wrote: ↑17 Apr 2018, 10:14Yes.Andres125sx wrote: ↑17 Apr 2018, 08:52
Impertinence??
An aggressive rider going flat out and doing some mistakes is impertinence in your eyes?
I can see we are not going to agree on this, so I hope we can agree to disagree.