2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

[Big Tea]

HTC still exists? lol.

Of course they do! They made the Vive VR headset, hence the VR deal with McLaren. They're also still banging out high end smart phones. Maybe they only target certain countries these days? Where you from Manoah2u?

I just switched from a HTC to a Samsung, and although a generation older the HTC was a better phone in every department (cept weight)

Yes, I know. Then why did you switch. Seemed like a good idea at the time

There were a good selection of HTC, so defiantly still going. I may have to consider sneaking back to Mclaren the way its going

[GoranF1]

HTC still exists? lol.

Of course they do! They made the Vive VR headset, hence the VR deal with McLaren. They're also still banging out high end smart phones. Maybe they only target certain countries these days? Where you from Manoah2u?

I just switched from a HTC to a Samsung, and although a generation older the HTC was a better phone in every department (cept weight)

Yes, I know. Then why did you switch. Seemed like a good idea at the time

There were a good selection of HTC, so defiantly still going. I may have to consider sneaking back to Mclaren the way its going

HTC is the biggest crap in history of smartphones......on topic, race pace sim look the worst so far this year....baf weekend ahead, need some luck.

[Ground Effect]

Of course they do! They made the Vive VR headset, hence the VR deal with McLaren. They're also still banging out high end smart phones. Maybe they only target certain countries these days? Where you from Manoah2u?

I just switched from a HTC to a Samsung, and although a generation older the HTC was a better phone in every department (cept weight)

Yes, I know. Then why did you switch. Seemed like a good idea at the time

There were a good selection of HTC, so defiantly still going. I may have to consider sneaking back to Mclaren the way its going

HTC is the biggest crap in history of smartphones......on topic, race pace sim look the worst so far this year....baf weekend ahead, need some luck.

Do you have the link to the race pace data?

[OzanA]

Of course they do! They made the Vive VR headset, hence the VR deal with McLaren. They're also still banging out high end smart phones. Maybe they only target certain countries these days? Where you from Manoah2u?

I just switched from a HTC to a Samsung, and although a generation older the HTC was a better phone in every department (cept weight)

Yes, I know. Then why did you switch. Seemed like a good idea at the time

There were a good selection of HTC, so defiantly still going. I may have to consider sneaking back to Mclaren the way its going

HTC is the biggest crap in history of smartphones......on topic, race pace sim look the worst so far this year....baf weekend ahead, need some luck.

Race pace isn't so important here.Midfielder drivers cannot overtake Alonso in Monaco,but not sure about Stoffel.

Also I don't think Mclaren pushed hard so far, they are still not happy with setup.

[Andres125sx]

HTC still exists? lol.

Of course they do! They made the Vive VR headset, hence the VR deal with McLaren. They're also still banging out high end smart phones. Maybe they only target certain countries these days? Where you from Manoah2u?

I just switched from a HTC to a Samsung, and although a generation older the HTC was a better phone in every department (cept weight)

Yes, I know. Then why did you switch. Seemed like a good idea at the time

There were a good selection of HTC, so defiantly still going. I may have to consider sneaking back to Mclaren the way its going

Similar experience here, I still have great memories of my HTC Wildfire S, much better than my next Samsung S3 mini wich on the paper was some generations newer, but in the end I missed my HTC from first to last day I had the S3

[Darth-Piekus]

I have a legitimate question to make. Why are some Mclaren fans so negative regarding what Mclaren is trying to rebuild?

[CjC]

I have a legitimate question to make. Why are some Mclaren fans so negative regarding what Mclaren is trying to rebuild?

Because it's Mclaren........
Mclaren can seem to not do right in some eyes....
Mclaren get bashed for not having sponsors, they accuire sponsors but they are the wrong sponsors according to some

[Alonso Fan]

I have a legitimate question to make. Why are some Mclaren fans so negative regarding what Mclaren is trying to rebuild?

Because it's Mclaren........
Mclaren can seem to not do right in some eyes....
Mclaren get bashed for not having sponsors, they accuire sponsors but they are the wrong sponsors according to some

Adding to this some people actually take the sponsor hype seriously

[RonDennis]

I have a legitimate question to make. Why are some Mclaren fans so negative regarding what Mclaren is trying to rebuild?

They just should have said that, instead of acting like they could challenge the top teams. At least they know things have to change instead of blaming Honda for everything.

[Big Tea]

I have a legitimate question to make. Why are some Mclaren fans so negative regarding what Mclaren is trying to rebuild?

Because it's Mclaren........ I think you could have stopped there.

Mclaren should never have got into the position they are. Or that is the perception of some Mclaren fans.
I am a 'lapsed' Mclaren fan, and it was a long time dawning on me. It started really with the copied Ferrari plans, but from there on became a farce. Ron Dennis being forced out (allegedly to allow the team to continue in F1, but lets not go there) through mismanaging technical staff and taking an aloof position when they should have been working hard to recover their position in the top 4 not claiming they should be leading ..

It has been a drip feed of badly handled PR if nothing else.
So, To my mind, Mclaren should never have 'fallen', and do not seem to be taking the right steps to recover.

No matter that the reality is different, thats how it seems.
(please note before jumping,I have used the word perception in the statements.)

[AJI]

I have a legitimate question to make. Why are some Mclaren fans so negative regarding what Mclaren is trying to rebuild?

I don't think it's specifically negativity, it's just that with disappointment after disappointment comes dissatisfaction and frustration.
A lot of older fans (like myself) remember the days of total McLaren domination like it was yesterday.
Romantic, yes.., but like anything that is romanticised comparisons between then and now compound and confuse feelings. There're only so many times you can be told, 'we're all right', and, 'don't worry, it'll be just like it was when we first got married', before you realise that it won't be alright, and you're actually getting a divorce...

[M840TR]

I think ALO will do a 12.2 - 12.4 in Quali.

Ricciardo was into 1.11s in fp2 so expect at least mid to high 1.11s when balance issues are sorted

[Cannonballer]

I have a legitimate question to make. Why are some Mclaren fans so negative regarding what Mclaren is trying to rebuild?

I don't think that McLaren fans are negative about McLaren being successful, they are negative about the prospects of achieving success.

[Darth-Piekus]

The question is why are some Mclaren fans negative about Mclaren trying to come back to where they are. Why are they so quick to dismiss what they are trying to achieve? They keep elevating small teams like Torro Rosso and HRT just to spite the real big team which is Mclaren. When will they understand that these small teams will never be able to be as big as Mclaren and the reason they are here is because Mclaren are not themselves?

The same goes for Red Bull. Despite the 4 championships they got they will never be able to touch the history of Mclaren, Ferrari, Williams and Mercedes. These are the teams that are a living history of F1. Without them there is no Formula 1. Nobody would care if Red Bull, Torro Rosso or HRT left. So why all this negativity and all this spiting? Make no mistake Mclaren will outdevelop Renault and HRT and be on a position to challenge the top 3. It's a matter of time.

[Darth-Piekus]

Also this Honda did nothing wrong it's all on Mclaren should stop. Honda failed miserably. They had two years to prepare since they knew from 2013 that they would cooperate with Mclaren at 2015. Two years did nothing and then in their 3 years contract they provided nothing. They still don't provide anything to Torro Rosso since they were doing better with the Renault Engines last year. At the end of the day it is a clear fact that Mclaren are faster this year with the Renault Engine than last year and they yet to have stopped from an engine. The results talk themselves.