2018 French Grand Prix, Le Castellet, June 22-24

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Re: 2018 French Grand Prix, Le Castellet, June 22-24

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Godius wrote:
22 Jun 2018, 22:02
I know the front wheels have to be tethered but does this also count for the rear wheels?
Neither the front nor the rear wheels (rim and tyre) are tethered.

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Re: 2018 French Grand Prix, Le Castellet, June 22-24

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godlameroso wrote:
22 Jun 2018, 22:34
Good chance it rains for or during quali and the race.
It better does (rain) because Vettel's FERRARI are by far the car to beat according to race sims on both super and ultra soft tyres and that was achieved with a 6 race weekends old engine.

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Re: 2018 French Grand Prix, Le Castellet, June 22-24

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roon wrote:
22 Jun 2018, 22:55
Godius wrote:
22 Jun 2018, 22:02
I know the front wheels have to be tethered but does this also count for the rear wheels?
Wheel tethers are a bit of a misnomer, as none of the wheels are tethered. The uprights/wheel carriers, however, do have two tethers each (eight per car). The torque of the wheel nut holds the wheel to the carrier, and a spring loaded retainer tab keeps the nut from backing out if the nut becomes loose. If a piece of debris prevented the wheel nut from seating, then proper torque could still be applied, but the nut would not have not been threaded on deeply enough for the retainer tab to engage. When the debris falls out, or the unevenly loaded wheel nut vibrates loose, there's nothing to stop the wheel and nut from falling off the upright/carrier.

Hence:

https://images.indianexpress.com/2018/0 ... alonso.jpg
The wheel (rim) goes over and is tightened to a rotating spindle, the spindle rotates inside the upright carrier in tow bearings, the bigger one on the outside of the upright carrier and the smaller one on the inside and is held in by a big nut at the back of the upright carrier.

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Re: 2018 French Grand Prix, Le Castellet, June 22-24

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Brenton wrote:
23 Jun 2018, 03:01
Sierra117 wrote:
22 Jun 2018, 13:09
A slightly less-discussed topic, how about the teams include a mini-map of everyone on the grid (same way we see on TV or in a racing game)? Like on a tiny section of the dash, maybe not even a map just a name that suggests someone is immediately behind you. That way we can finally eliminate this issue of someone going too slow in front or suddenly turning in or teams forgetting to inform of someone faster. Or at least to reduce the events. I'm sure there can be some sort of solution, it doesn't seem like a monumental task.
Hmm... how much info on the dashboard during usual driving in practice/qualifying does the driver need? Maybe it would be easy to implement this without issue. But what is stopping this is the teams need enough incentive. Right now there's not enough consequence for misbehavior for them to implement something like that.

In auto racing there is almost always an externality cost problem with safety ... organizations, tracks, and teams don't bear the full cost of injury or death in racing. And there's an externality cost that individual teams place on other teams and the track/event/etc in that the teams don't bear the full cost of things like a wheel coming loose or a collision with another car, etc.. So teams take more risk with things like collision with another car, or hazardous debris prevention, than they would if they had to pay the full cost. Sorry for poor explanation.
Perhaps, but there's no way around the time cost for anybody, since everyone pays for that at the end in full. Personally I'd just find it a drag and a tedious affair to spend time on reminding drivers of who's coming up from the back when it can be automated by the car (same way DRS is beeped into their earpieces).

Maybe it could be like the beeping of a fighter jet when it gets missile locked adding some further excitement for the driver and those listening :lol:
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Re: 2018 French Grand Prix, Le Castellet, June 22-24

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saviour stivala wrote:
23 Jun 2018, 04:56
GPR-A wrote:
22 Jun 2018, 18:03
Vanja #66 wrote:
22 Jun 2018, 17:48

How is it amazing, it's special tyres again here?
I hope you are not inviting all those who enjoy this discussion about how Pirelli has favored Mercedes. :lol:
What is the use of being faster than the rest of the field over a lap on tyres modified as per your wish other than to showboat, when number 5 FERRARI achieves by far the best race sims times on both super and ultra soft tyre with a 6 race weekend old engine.
Funny that the official site of F1 says the top three teams are all within a tenth in race sim. Do you have those times?

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falonso81 wrote:
23 Jun 2018, 08:00
saviour stivala wrote:
23 Jun 2018, 04:56
GPR-A wrote:
22 Jun 2018, 18:03
I hope you are not inviting all those who enjoy this discussion about how Pirelli has favored Mercedes. :lol:
What is the use of being faster than the rest of the field over a lap on tyres modified as per your wish other than to showboat, when number 5 FERRARI achieves by far the best race sims times on both super and ultra soft tyre with a 6 race weekend old engine.
Funny that the official site of F1 says the top three teams are all within a tenth in race sim. Do you have those times?
Must be smoking something. Let me put the times here.

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Re: 2018 French Grand Prix, Le Castellet, June 22-24

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Despite only going 5th fastest number 5 FERRARI long run pace was staggering fast over the others using engine number 1. Number 5 FERRARI race simulations average over his 2 stints shows he had an average lap time of 1.36:39 on ultra-soft (his shorter stint) that’s nearly a second faster than the closest drivers (1.37:27 number 44 on super soft) and (1.37:21 verstappen on ultra-soft). Number 5 longer stint on super-soft was equally impressive (most laps of the top 6 drivers) averaging under 1.38’s.

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What are you on about? Never trust Friday practice, and "race simulations average" even less.
And the tire conspiracy theories are tiring without evidence.

BTW what does this mean?:
"I hope you are not inviting all those who enjoy this discussion about how Pirelli has favored Mercedes. :lol:"

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komninosm wrote:
23 Jun 2018, 08:57
What are you on about? Never trust Friday practice, and "race simulations average" even less.
And the tire conspiracy theories are tiring without evidence.

BTW what does this mean?:
"I hope you are not inviting all those who enjoy this discussion about how Pirelli has favored Mercedes. :lol:"
We've had various people analyse the FP2 times, myself included. They are usually a very reasonable proxy of race pace for the 1st stint.

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Re: 2018 French Grand Prix, Le Castellet, June 22-24

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Fulcrum wrote:
23 Jun 2018, 09:12
komninosm wrote:
23 Jun 2018, 08:57
What are you on about? Never trust Friday practice, and "race simulations average" even less.
And the tire conspiracy theories are tiring without evidence.

BTW what does this mean?:
"I hope you are not inviting all those who enjoy this discussion about how Pirelli has favored Mercedes. :lol:"
We've had various people analyse the FP2 times, myself included. They are usually a very reasonable proxy of race pace for the 1st stint.
So what's your verdict for tomorrow?

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komninosm wrote:
23 Jun 2018, 09:23
Fulcrum wrote:
23 Jun 2018, 09:12
komninosm wrote:
23 Jun 2018, 08:57
What are you on about? Never trust Friday practice, and "race simulations average" even less.
And the tire conspiracy theories are tiring without evidence.

BTW what does this mean?:
"I hope you are not inviting all those who enjoy this discussion about how Pirelli has favored Mercedes. :lol:"
We've had various people analyse the FP2 times, myself included. They are usually a very reasonable proxy of race pace for the 1st stint.
So what's your verdict for tomorrow?
There is no race tomorrow. Only qualifying, and he didn't say anything about 1 lap pace.

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Re: 2018 French Grand Prix, Le Castellet, June 22-24

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Zynerji wrote:
23 Jun 2018, 09:31
komninosm wrote:
23 Jun 2018, 09:23
Fulcrum wrote:
23 Jun 2018, 09:12


We've had various people analyse the FP2 times, myself included. They are usually a very reasonable proxy of race pace for the 1st stint.
So what's your verdict for tomorrow?
There is no race tomorrow. Only qualifying, and he didn't say anything about 1 lap pace.
What do you mean? Qualifying is in 5 hours and the race is tomorrow. Did something change?

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
23 Jun 2018, 03:57
Juzh wrote:
22 Jun 2018, 21:21
Hamilton fp2 P1 lap - 1:32.539

https://streamable.com/v9zay
Got to say I like the track from onboard. Smooth flowing layout. Did he just do 300 kph through a corner?
It's not really a corner. Everyone's flat there.

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Re: 2018 French Grand Prix, Le Castellet, June 22-24

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Juzh wrote:
23 Jun 2018, 09:44
PlatinumZealot wrote:
23 Jun 2018, 03:57
Juzh wrote:
22 Jun 2018, 21:21
Hamilton fp2 P1 lap - 1:32.539

https://streamable.com/v9zay
Got to say I like the track from onboard. Smooth flowing layout. Did he just do 300 kph through a corner?
It's not really a corner. Everyone's flat there.
The audio is strange on my headphones , left to right ear on headphones, on TV speakers it's not noticeable. I think high notes on the left ear and low on the right. Why's that?

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komninosm wrote:
23 Jun 2018, 09:41
Zynerji wrote:
23 Jun 2018, 09:31
komninosm wrote:
23 Jun 2018, 09:23


So what's your verdict for tomorrow?
There is no race tomorrow. Only qualifying, and he didn't say anything about 1 lap pace.
What do you mean? Qualifying is in 5 hours and the race is tomorrow. Did something change?
Just my lack of awareness that midnight had passed. My bad, I thought you were asking about qualifying.