ALO_Power wrote: ↑23 Jun 2018, 20:58
Schuttelberg wrote: ↑23 Jun 2018, 17:45
Never been a McLaren fan ever, but as someone who admires and respects them this is getting painful to watch. All that Honda bashing for 3 years and all that 'we have the best chassis' talk. I'm sorry but McLaren deserves to be spoken about in a higher degree even in tumultuous times and the current set up have made it a joke it should never have come close to being.
Yes mate, we all see that but it's just annoying when people do what u do, coming in this topic when they never post (and being fans and active of another team) after a disaster to enjoy themselves.
Anyway, as for the massive performance drop, is it possible those internal guys that humiliated McLaren in the media and told that they wanna go on strike, started to actually do this and "sabotage" the team to wake em up? I wouldn't be surprised. It's just super weird to drop soooooooo much after the 1st 7 races. Qualifying never was there for sure but still. Also, reliability problems out of the blue started to knock the door while McLaren was the team with zero retirements at the start of the season. Weird, weird. I'm not backing em up in any way, just considered what those employees told.
Another factor to count it in is that temperature was low and they are aparently having a hard time to warm up the tyres properly. This doesnt mean they are good enough for Q3, but 11th could be in reach.
Performance drop in races is not as dramatic as the media and people are suggesting. In last two races they were still in P7 and P10 when the failures appeared. Vandoorne on the other hand is in some sort of crisis - and we dont know if he is to blame, or he is not getting the full and fair treatment.
About retirements - as u said, they enjoyed the best reliability of the Renault teams, but this exactly means that sooner or later components will start to fail. I dont believe people went into "german force labour" mode and started sabotaging parts of the car.
Afterall this bad qualifying results are really harming them, even though they are able to catch Renaults and other midfielders in the race. Top three teams on the other hand are almost a second per lap infront of others.