In F-1 racing. When multiple cars DNF in the same incident. How does the FIA, stewards, or what ever "powers that be" determine which car DNF's first ?
Is there no place here for that question ?
If so. Please let me know. Thanks.
Sorry, Hoped I had made it plain it was just a guess. I looked through the regs but found nothing appropriate other than red flag rules.Clearhooter wrote: ↑19 Jul 2018, 18:03adrianjordon, you are correct. That would be too simple. In the Spanish GP Grosjean was definitely at fault for the pile-up. But the order of the DNF went Hulkenberg, Gasly then Grosjean getting the 3rd DNF. At Silverstone His miscalculation took out Sainz. But Sainz finished out with a lower DNF.... So it's not who caused the multiple car crash that determines the DNF order.
It's also not how far the cars made it down the track. Were that the case in the crash involving Hartley and Stroll, Stroll made it further down the track albeit not much. But Stroll took the 1st DNF.
Big Tea. While these rules address the finish order I don't see anything specific about the order of DNF's. But then, I'm no lawyer. I might need one to help figure this out.
So according to rule 45.2 if you don't finish the first lap it's like a DNS ? But that still doesn't address the order of the DNF's. While this doesn't pertain to most crashes and DNF's I can see where it eventually would at sometime. There's got to be something in writing. I'm no lawyer. But it's starting to look like I'll need one to figure this out.... lol
I'd like to propose this question to Sky Sports if I could figure out how to do that.... Let them mull it over.
I've been looking at each "theory" and tried to substantiate one.
That is really interesting and I don't think I've seen anyone mention it before.Reptayn wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025, 12:17Hello guys from the past. I hope someone sees this and could help me out. I don't know if the rules you discribed is still accurate as of now but today it struck me like a lightning. In 2021 lewis and max were on par with points. Regularly if both dnf or finished outside the points max would have won the championship as he had more wins. So he could very much risk a crash in a racing incident with Hamilton but not vice versa. BUT here comes the regulation into play. In the last lap were it all happend P12 and above were one lap down. Verstappen and Hamilton incase of a double dnf would be counted as p10/11. And one of them would have gotten a point to become champion. According to you buddies of the past it would've been Hamilton because he crossed the line first going in the final lap. That means the driver that would benefit from a double dnf to win wdc shifted from verstappen to Hamilton in the last lap and I think nobody was aware of that. And if Hamilton was aware he could've maybe won because he could've defend harder going into last lap. Did I understand it correctly?