McLaren / CNBC

[strad]

At least with the TdF they're using someone with an accent, so obviously that guy knows something.

You lost me there.
Are you saying that because he has an accent it makes it obvious he knows something?
Who is TdF?
And how do you figure the crew we had before didn't have an understanding of F1?
Which one Matchett.? Ex F1 mechanic?
Hobbs with a better race resume than DiResta?
Leigh Diffey? Who has covered a wide variety of motorsports?
This brings up that the SKY crew commits more gaffs than Murray Walker. That the director and producer are often completely out of sync with the commentators and lastly that over here they had a whole crew on computers so they had volumes of knowledge and resources in their ear at all times. OH yeah, they can't seem to post the pit stop times consistently. Sometimes the time stopped other times overall from pit in to pit out and sometimes, nothing at all.
IS commercial free better? NO DOUBT! But the production values are horrible by comparison.

[Clearhooter]

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Back on topic. CNBC is carried on various TV systems around the world, so it's not so surprising that they would want to sponsor an F1 car.
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I didn't know that. What with all the satellites I suppose that is to be expected. Worlds getting smaller by the day.

[Clearhooter]

Elocution is nice, but a thorough understanding of the sport is essential. Except for the starts/restarts, when Crofty turns into a raging lunatic, the Sky coverage is a huge improvement over whatever was there before in the US. The world cup, for example, was totally unwatchable. At least with the TdF they're using someone with an accent, so obviously that guy knows something.

Back on topic. CNBC is carried on various TV systems around the world, so it's not so surprising that they would want to sponsor an F1 car.

I've known some people whose IQ's seem infinite. But they can't teach what they know; because they can't adapt to common knowledge. Understanding is nothing if you can't relate it to those who don't know.

[Clearhooter]

At least with the TdF they're using someone with an accent, so obviously that guy knows something.

You lost me there.
Are you saying that because he has an accent it makes it obvious he knows something?
Who is TdF?
And how do you figure the crew we had before didn't have an understanding of F1?
Which one Matchett.? Ex F1 mechanic?
Hobbs with a better race resume than DiResta?
Leigh Diffey? Who has covered a wide variety of motorsports?
This brings up that the SKY crew commits more gaffs than Murray Walker. That the director and producer are often completely out of sync with the commentators and lastly that over here they had a whole crew on computers so they had volumes of knowledge and resources in their ear at all times. OH yeah, they can't seem to post the pit stop times consistently. Sometimes the time stopped other times overall from pit in to pit out and sometimes, nothing at all.
IS commercial free better? NO DOUBT! But the production values are horrible by comparison.

I can't disagree with any of that. Except that, when you put most British accents to even a dumb phase, like... "The rain in Spain stays mainly on the plain..." It sounds "smarter" than if I said it. BUT.... On the other hand. Sheriff Andy Taylor was a pretty smart "cookie."

[Cold Fussion]

It is amusing seeing an American complain about 'foreign' accents, meanwhile the rest of the world is bombarded by American culture.

[strad]

It isn't only the U.S. that might have a problem. They are broadcast to many countries. I'm sure many of them have a problem deciphering what's being said as well.

[Peter1919]

That the director and producer are often completely out of sync with the commentators
OH yeah, they can't seem to post the pit stop times consistently. Sometimes the time stopped other times overall from pit in to pit out and sometimes, nothing at all.
IS commercial free better? NO DOUBT! But the production values are horrible by comparison.

All of the above are the responsibility of the FIA feed which is common to all broadcasters nothing to do with SKY at all

[strad]

All of the above are the responsibility of the FIA feed which is common to all broadcasters nothing to do with SKY at all

If that were true then NBCs commentators would have suffered the same pitfalls. They didn't.
FOM/FIA don't cause the ratio of backround noise to the car radio transmissions to be out of whack. You could generally understand just fine in previous years. Production values a solely in the hands of SKY.
It's SKYs fault if Crofty tells us to watch a video that the producers do not have cued up and ready to play and then when he calls for it again shows the wrong video, or when he thinks the camera man is showing one thing but the director is showing something else entirely.
It's all in the hands of the producers at SKY.

[Nickel]

Well, as a Canadian I have zero problem understanding the sky team. I've watched f1 with many different teams doing the talking. I don't think sky is the best but probably second best. I miss the years where Brundle and Coulthard worked together.

I've worked with some folks with pretty darn thick accents including many for whom English is a third or 5th language. You just adapt. Before you know it you can pick out the difference between regional accents.

I had no beef with Matchett and Hobbs but I certainly wouldn't call it great.

[zoroastar]

im from tennessee (south) and i have never had any problem understanding anyone at Sky really. diresta and some of of the heavy irish accents are the toughest sometimes. ive been face to face with irish people, drunk on guinness, and couldnt understand a word they said, even though i was told they were speaking english. i have spent a lot of time in europe playing music though, so that may help my ability to pick up what everyone at Sky says.
compared to NBC broadcasting from past years, Sky may have more stats, and a larger "show", but ill take David Hobbs any day of the week over most of what ESPN has to offer. i seem to pick up way more obvious favoritism from many of the commentators. maybe subliminally, but am i the only one that notices that any time that someone mentions mclaren, martin brundle changes the conversation to mercedes or ferrari? or in his "on track" observations, he goes out of his way to say how slow mclaren are around a corner, even if they are clearly not on a flying lap? its kindof funny actually. i like DiResta, and at least kravitz has no qualms about telling it like he sees it, without being passive aggressive about things, but Hobbs, Matchet, and the Aussie guy were more entertaining to me.

ps. the only guy i have trouble understanding is Cyril Abitiboul. his fast jumbled accent is tough. even if he knows his english well, the way he speaks is pretty hard to catch, even if i rewind. but i dont think he gives a f***.

[strad]

+1 on Cyril.
I can't understand over half of what he says. Plus he seems to just go on and on. Must love the limelight that they give him plenty of.

[Gaz.]

All of the above are the responsibility of the FIA feed which is common to all broadcasters nothing to do with SKY at all

If that were true then NBCs commentators would have suffered the same pitfalls. They didn't.
FOM/FIA don't cause the ratio of backround noise to the car radio transmissions to be out of whack. You could generally understand just fine in previous years. Production values a solely in the hands of SKY.
It's SKYs fault if Crofty tells us to watch a video that the producers do not have cued up and ready to play and then when he calls for it again shows the wrong video, or when he thinks the camera man is showing one thing but the director is showing something else entirely.
It's all in the hands of the producers at SKY.

Sky UK have a split screen so Croft may say 'look at Alonso's DRS malfunction' while I see a replay of this malfunction but you still get the world feed. The Sky comms is geared for their own customers as a priority, your channel is just piggy backing the comms from it.

The reverse is true for the Indy 500 when the yanks say 'now here is a word from our sponsors' and we get either dead air for 5 minutes or a throw back to a studio.

[strad]

that isn't how it was at all.
The director didn't have the footage Croft was talking about queued up and he gave them time to do so and instead they showed earlier footage of Hamilton arriving instead of him coming out of the trailer which was what he was referring to.
It's just like when Croft says here look at the nose of the Ferrari and the camera man is aimed at the rear of the car.
They just can't get their act together.

[adrianjordan]

...some of of the heavy irish accents are the toughest sometimes. ive been face to face with irish people, drunk on guinness, and couldnt understand a word they said, even though i was told they were speaking english...

To be fair, it probably didn't matter what language they were speaking if they were as drunk as some people get on Guinness!!

[zoroastar]

...some of of the heavy irish accents are the toughest sometimes. ive been face to face with irish people, drunk on guinness, and couldnt understand a word they said, even though i was told they were speaking english...

To be fair, it probably didn't matter what language they were speaking if they were as drunk as some people get on Guinness!!

yea, the reality is, i may have had a bit myself. but i am pretty certain that it wasnt the cause of me not understanding. (: