No.charliesmithhd wrote: ↑26 Jul 2018, 16:11Is this new?ScrewCaptain27 wrote: ↑26 Jul 2018, 16:06FW details (AMuS):
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I wonder if they're trying condition the flow of air to the rear wing with those ?M840TR wrote: ↑26 Jul 2018, 17:02Elongated winglet on engine cover is back. This also means rear end is going to be more open than before as the 'valley' is flattened a bit.
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Just more rear end downforce. Trying to take advantage of downwash from sidepods and engine cover to get a bit more streamlined air.diffuser wrote: ↑26 Jul 2018, 18:55I wonder if they're trying condition the flow of air to the rear wing with those ?M840TR wrote: ↑26 Jul 2018, 17:02Elongated winglet on engine cover is back. This also means rear end is going to be more open than before as the 'valley' is flattened a bit.
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Doesn't that form a gurney flap at the end? That winglet has been tested extensively but i'm not sure if it was ever raced.M840TR wrote: ↑26 Jul 2018, 19:10Just more rear end downforce. Trying to take advantage of downwash from sidepods and engine cover to get a bit more streamlined air.diffuser wrote: ↑26 Jul 2018, 18:55I wonder if they're trying condition the flow of air to the rear wing with those ?M840TR wrote: ↑26 Jul 2018, 17:02Elongated winglet on engine cover is back. This also means rear end is going to be more open than before as the 'valley' is flattened a bit.
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I don't think they had a gurney flap on it. Yes it was tested but looks set to be raced now.kfrantzios wrote: ↑26 Jul 2018, 21:48Doesn't that form a gurney flap at the end? That winglet has been tested extensively but i'm not sure if it was ever raced.
No he's correct, McLaren used them before Mercedes, on the 2012 MP4-27. Mercedes then used them on the 2013 W04.
And McLaren copied them from Lotus, who introduced them in 2012.
Definitely not.M840TR wrote: ↑26 Jul 2018, 19:10Just more rear end downforce. Trying to take advantage of downwash from sidepods and engine cover to get a bit more streamlined air.diffuser wrote: ↑26 Jul 2018, 18:55I wonder if they're trying condition the flow of air to the rear wing with those ?M840TR wrote: ↑26 Jul 2018, 17:02Elongated winglet on engine cover is back. This also means rear end is going to be more open than before as the 'valley' is flattened a bit.
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I know the top of sidepods are commonly dedicated to pushing air downwards to the diffuser, but the Mcl33 has a tiny winglet adjacent to the vortex generators on top which obviously is directing air to the rear wing area. My point was that the winglets at the back do manage exiting air, but by extension they create rear end stability, which the car clearly lacks.wesley123 wrote: ↑26 Jul 2018, 22:58Definitely not.
The top of the sidepod is a lift generating surface. Teams put in a lot of effort to reduce it's topside area and/or find ways to push air away from the top.
There is zero reason to place the element there if you are looking for downforce, considering the free area exists far above it's position as well.
This is more about managing exiting airflow.
Think Lotus only had one on each sidepod though didn't they, Mercedes had one of those as well in 2012 to be fair. Red Bull had a double one in Valencia at least as well.