McLaren / CNBC

[Big Tea]

im from tennessee (south) and i have never had any problem understanding anyone at Sky really. diresta and some of of the heavy irish accents are the toughest sometimes. ive been face to face with irish people, drunk on guinness, and couldnt understand a word they said, even though i was told they were speaking english. i have spent a lot of time in europe playing music though, so that may help my ability to pick up what everyone at Sky says.
compared to NBC broadcasting from past years, Sky may have more stats, and a larger "show", but ill take David Hobbs any day of the week over most of what ESPN has to offer. i seem to pick up way more obvious favoritism from many of the commentators. maybe subliminally, but am i the only one that notices that any time that someone mentions mclaren, martin brundle changes the conversation to mercedes or ferrari? or in his "on track" observations, he goes out of his way to say how slow mclaren are around a corner, even if they are clearly not on a flying lap? its kindof funny actually. i like DiResta, and at least kravitz has no qualms about telling it like he sees it, without being passive aggressive about things, but Hobbs, Matchet, and the Aussie guy were more entertaining to me.

ps. the only guy i have trouble understanding is Cyril Abitiboul. his fast jumbled accent is tough. even if he knows his english well, the way he speaks is pretty hard to catch, even if i rewind. but i dont think he gives a f***.

Hobbs is from Warwickshire,(Leamington Spa) which tends to be a well spoken area. Di Resta is from West Lothian, which is Scotland and a heavy accent. It is understandable that one is easier to follow than the other, it is the spoken equivalent of book print and biro scrawl. (Not intending as insult for Scotts, I have a thick accent too)

[Clearhooter]

im from tennessee (south) and i have never had any problem understanding anyone at Sky really. diresta and some of of the heavy irish accents are the toughest sometimes. ive been face to face with irish people, drunk on guinness, and couldnt understand a word they said, even though i was told they were speaking english. i have spent a lot of time in europe playing music though, so that may help my ability to pick up what everyone at Sky says.
compared to NBC broadcasting from past years, Sky may have more stats, and a larger "show", but ill take David Hobbs any day of the week over most of what ESPN has to offer. i seem to pick up way more obvious favoritism from many of the commentators. maybe subliminally, but am i the only one that notices that any time that someone mentions mclaren, martin brundle changes the conversation to mercedes or ferrari? or in his "on track" observations, he goes out of his way to say how slow mclaren are around a corner, even if they are clearly not on a flying lap? its kindof funny actually. i like DiResta, and at least kravitz has no qualms about telling it like he sees it, without being passive aggressive about things, but Hobbs, Matchet, and the Aussie guy were more entertaining to me.

ps. the only guy i have trouble understanding is Cyril Abitiboul. his fast jumbled accent is tough. even if he knows his english well, the way he speaks is pretty hard to catch, even if i rewind. but i dont think he gives a f***.

Not to change the subject but you said you played music in Europe? I too play and write music. Never in Europe though. But it's amazing to me how even when a singer, lets say OZZIE as a prime example couldn't speak a word of "The Queen's English" in an understandable form. When he sings the accents fades to almost nothing. The Beatles, Stones were the same way. Just have always found that odd. Of course the exception for this is American Country Western. I write in the "Americana genre." When I sing I've always got to be aware of flattening out my "I's."

[Big Tea]

IF you know the proclaimers, this will interest you. Not the singing vid, the chat after.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM3PWahOi9o

They are far easier to understand now than they were

[strad]

Just so you know ,,, My wife and I watch many shows on BBC and I have no trouble understanding people on those shows. Every year I watch the Isle of Man and there are some but mostly only Guy Martin is hard to understand.
You mention singing voices. I wonder if what makes the F1 crew, again not all of them, hard to understand is that so often they are just prattling on and the slip into their every day voice when they should be using their announcers voice. Possible?

[Clearhooter]

IF you know the proclaimers, this will interest you. Not the singing vid, the chat after.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM3PWahOi9o

They are far easier to understand now than they were

Kind of reminds me of trying to understand someone from up around an area in Detroit. In music, words that come out that close together I call "machine gun lyrics." I had two friends years ago from up there. When they got together and got in an excited conversation I couldn't understand a word they were saying. One of them stayed down here. Her speech has assimilated to the South pretty well. We wear off on ya.

[strad]

True
When in the south you quickly find yourself picking up the accent. At least I did anyway. New Orleans in my case.

[zoroastar]

im from tennessee (south) and i have never had any problem understanding anyone at Sky really. diresta and some of of the heavy irish accents are the toughest sometimes. ive been face to face with irish people, drunk on guinness, and couldnt understand a word they said, even though i was told they were speaking english. i have spent a lot of time in europe playing music though, so that may help my ability to pick up what everyone at Sky says.
compared to NBC broadcasting from past years, Sky may have more stats, and a larger "show", but ill take David Hobbs any day of the week over most of what ESPN has to offer. i seem to pick up way more obvious favoritism from many of the commentators. maybe subliminally, but am i the only one that notices that any time that someone mentions mclaren, martin brundle changes the conversation to mercedes or ferrari? or in his "on track" observations, he goes out of his way to say how slow mclaren are around a corner, even if they are clearly not on a flying lap? its kindof funny actually. i like DiResta, and at least kravitz has no qualms about telling it like he sees it, without being passive aggressive about things, but Hobbs, Matchet, and the Aussie guy were more entertaining to me.

ps. the only guy i have trouble understanding is Cyril Abitiboul. his fast jumbled accent is tough. even if he knows his english well, the way he speaks is pretty hard to catch, even if i rewind. but i dont think he gives a f***.

Not to change the subject but you said you played music in Europe? I too play and write music. Never in Europe though. But it's amazing to me how even when a singer, lets say OZZIE as a prime example couldn't speak a word of "The Queen's English" in an understandable form. When he sings the accents fades to almost nothing. The Beatles, Stones were the same way. Just have always found that odd. Of course the exception for this is American Country Western. I write in the "Americana genre." When I sing I've always got to be aware of flattening out my "I's."

yea thats true. i guess its kindof like when a person that talks with a stutter, sings, there is no stutter in their voice. mysteries... i play drums in a metal band so i dont have to worry about vocals very much luckily. it is pretty amazing that almost every european speaks at least some english. most that i met spoke it very well. there are a lot of things that us Americans lag behind in. we are pretty lucky that english turned out to be the common language in most of the civilized world. i guess we can thank the Brits for that

[Clearhooter]

im from tennessee (south) and i have never had any problem understanding anyone at Sky really. diresta and some of of the heavy irish accents are the toughest sometimes. ive been face to face with irish people, drunk on guinness, and couldnt understand a word they said, even though i was told they were speaking english. i have spent a lot of time in europe playing music though, so that may help my ability to pick up what everyone at Sky says.
compared to NBC broadcasting from past years, Sky may have more stats, and a larger "show", but ill take David Hobbs any day of the week over most of what ESPN has to offer. i seem to pick up way more obvious favoritism from many of the commentators. maybe subliminally, but am i the only one that notices that any time that someone mentions mclaren, martin brundle changes the conversation to mercedes or ferrari? or in his "on track" observations, he goes out of his way to say how slow mclaren are around a corner, even if they are clearly not on a flying lap? its kindof funny actually. i like DiResta, and at least kravitz has no qualms about telling it like he sees it, without being passive aggressive about things, but Hobbs, Matchet, and the Aussie guy were more entertaining to me.

ps. the only guy i have trouble understanding is Cyril Abitiboul. his fast jumbled accent is tough. even if he knows his english well, the way he speaks is pretty hard to catch, even if i rewind. but i dont think he gives a f***.

Not to change the subject but you said you played music in Europe? I too play and write music. Never in Europe though. But it's amazing to me how even when a singer, lets say OZZIE as a prime example couldn't speak a word of "The Queen's English" in an understandable form. When he sings the accents fades to almost nothing. The Beatles, Stones were the same way. Just have always found that odd. Of course the exception for this is American Country Western. I write in the "Americana genre." When I sing I've always got to be aware of flattening out my "I's."

yea thats true. i guess its kindof like when a person that talks with a stutter, sings, there is no stutter in their voice. mysteries... i play drums in a metal band so i dont have to worry about vocals very much luckily. it is pretty amazing that almost every european speaks at least some english. most that i met spoke it very well. there are a lot of things that us Americans lag behind in. we are pretty lucky that english turned out to be the common language in most of the civilized world. i guess we can thank the Brits for that

The Brits colonized the world. Funny side to that statement. From the late '80's to the early 2000's I had a project drawing WWII aviation art. I'd talk to a WWII airman, get a story, and draw it as accurately as possible with Prismacolor Pencils. ( Not near as easy with no PC.) I worked with a friends dad who flew P-38 photo recons in the CBI. He had a photo he took over Hong Kong that I used for the background in a picture of his aircraft. Pretty high resolution for the day. In it I noticed two oddly shaped areas. I worked around these areas until I figured out what they were. We had a friend from Hong Kong and I took the aerial photo to her and asked if she knew what they were. She said "No.... But I give you map !" Come to find out the odd areas were a soccer stadium and a horse racing track.... British influence.

As far as the stuttering thing goes. At my local garbage dump they have a recycling bin that has three signs on it that equate to a tongue twister. "Green Glass" "Brown Glass" "Clear Glass." I find it hard to say three times fast. But when I put it to a melody; it comes out easily. Maybe those announcers need to sing their broadcast...... NOOOOO !

[strad]

Your comments make me think of guys like Jim Nabors . A totally different voice when singing.

[Clearhooter]

Well.... Either the announcers or me are assimilating. I didn't have near the trouble understanding them at the Hungarian GP. Heard Brundle today during his pit walk (Those have been embarrassing at times this season. Like today.) when he was trying to get an interview with Alonso, mention FOX was interviewing him. So.... Who is the FOX broadcasting audience ? Co-ordination between the Sky Sports booth and the images shown also seemed better today. Maybe they'll get it together for the rest of the season.

[strad]

I agree that I'm getting better at translating them, but the production end still sucks. The car to pit radio is lousy and that certainly is not got to do with the world feed. I am certain they have a sound mixer board with which they can turn the volume up on the car to pit and or turn down backround sound. They can adjust any sound feed.
And I am really bored with the announcers talking to each other and not to the viewers.
Everybody is entitled to their opinion and mine is that the SKY crew is way over rated.
Some are fine but some are terrible. IMO

[roon]

i play drums in a metal band so i dont have to worry about vocals very much luckily.

Some do, amazingly.

True
When in the south you quickly find yourself picking up the accent. At least I did anyway. New Orleans in my case.

You a real who dat now.

[Clearhooter]

Even as I was saying "I understood the announcers better." I misunderstood what the female interviewer (Never have caught her name.) asked Bottas. I thought SHE referred to Bottas as a "wing man." My wife caught my mistake. She said something like "Your 'boss' said you were a good 'wing man.' " That was "a whole 'nother ball of wax." You could see Bottas was disappointed in that statement and took offense. Then if you didn't catch it. He told her he was.

This is the kind of thing that gets jumbled up in a heavy accent. I expect not to be able to understand Kimi. That's not as much an accent, as he mumbles with an accent. But I do expect to be able to understand the interviewer's questions. She's one of the harder ones for me to understand.

I know this thread has strayed from its original intent. But the first question about the station logo seemed to be answered to my satisfaction. The broadcasters and the announcers accents kind of took on a secondary life of its own. Good discussion though. Hope no ones been offended by it.

[Clearhooter]

i play drums in a metal band so i dont have to worry about vocals very much luckily.

I started out playing drums in 1963. First band was in High school in '66 with a 9 piece "blue eyed soul" band. Played drums up to 1974 mostly Southern Rock by then. When the last band broke up I quit about a year. When I went back I never seemed to be able to knock the rust off. Kind of lost the separation of appendages. None of them would let me sing either. So I picked up guitar and started writing, playing and singing.

Good licks man.

[Big Tea]

Even as I was saying "I understood the announcers better." I misunderstood what the female interviewer (Never have caught her name.) asked Bottas. I thought SHE referred to Bottas as a "wing man." My wife caught my mistake. She said something like "Your 'boss' said you were a good 'wing man.' " That was "a whole 'nother ball of wax." You could see Bottas was disappointed in that statement and took offense. Then if you didn't catch it. He told her he was.

This is the kind of thing that gets jumbled up in a heavy accent. I expect not to be able to understand Kimi. That's not as much an accent, as he mumbles with an accent. But I do expect to be able to understand the interviewer's questions. She's one of the harder ones for me to understand.

I know this thread has strayed from its original intent. But the first question about the station logo seemed to be answered to my satisfaction. The broadcasters and the announcers accents kind of took on a secondary life of its own. Good discussion though. Hope no ones been offended by it.

I do not understand KiMi, and I hear every word

M not K