Hockenheim testing

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Re: Hockenheim testing, Day 1, July 8, 2008

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bazanaius wrote: The rear wing on the other hand is a thing of beauty

As is Ferrari's front wing--the best looking one out there if you ask me. I find it much more graceful than all the wings featuring bridges over the nosecone.

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guy_smiley wrote:
bazanaius wrote: The rear wing on the other hand is a thing of beauty

As is Ferrari's front wing--the best looking one out there if you ask me. I find it much more graceful than all the wings featuring bridges over the nosecone.
The Ferrari wing is a thing of beauty, but the bridge wings are simply amazing...

Right now the bridge wing is exclusive to F1. In the past 5 years, it was very easy for casual observers to confuse the various open-wheel cars, but now with bridge wings and shark fins, they are truly unique!

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Agree with guy_smiley and conceptual, but I wonder . . . why does Ferrari NOT use the bridge wing? Is it because their upper wing element gives the same (or even better) effect?

Conjecture anyone?
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Ogami musashi wrote:The Mp4-23 runs an assymetric sidepods+chinmey bodywork!

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They ran the blocked off sidepod during the British GP. It's hard to catch but it was there during the race.
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donskar wrote:Agree with guy_smiley and conceptual, but I wonder . . . why does Ferrari NOT use the bridge wing? Is it because their upper wing element gives the same (or even better) effect?

Conjecture anyone?
Yeah I was just wondering about that because if I remember correctly, Toyota were the only ones to run this style last year, and now Ferrari are the only to run it this year. One can only guess it fits in with the direction Ferrari wanted to go this year in terms of aero. Kimi was asked yesterday about Ferrari adopting a dorsal fin, and his response was something to the effect of "we do our own thing, go our own way," so like I say the connected bridge wing probably just fit in terms of overall package...No definite answer though, sorry :|
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guy_smiley wrote:
donskar wrote:Agree with guy_smiley and conceptual, but I wonder . . . why does Ferrari NOT use the bridge wing? Is it because their upper wing element gives the same (or even better) effect?

Conjecture anyone?
Yeah I was just wondering about that because if I remember correctly, Toyota were the only ones to run this style last year, and now Ferrari are the only to run it this year. One can only guess it fits in with the direction Ferrari wanted to go this year in terms of aero. Kimi was asked yesterday about Ferrari adopting a dorsal fin, and his response was something to the effect of "we do our own thing, go our own way," so like I say the connected bridge wing probably just fit in terms of overall package...No definite answer though, sorry :|
The bridge wing is simply a solution for having an upper element to the front wing on cars with nose cones too low to attach two seperate elements to, - all the cars with bridge wings have low noses, while the Ferrari has quite a high nose.
From what Ive heard and read the midddle section of the bridge wing does not produce downforce, so the upper elements on the Ferrari wing are doig the same job as the bridge wing.

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The middle part of the bridge might not produce downforce, but the advantage of this design is that it has no connection to the nosecone, which means much less drag. The drag generated at junctions of parts can be quit high, as the airflow gets messy around there. That was quite a solution from McLaren.
So, I still don't get why Ferrari use the upper element fixed to the nosecone.
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True. Maybe they found using the higher nose with 2 elements along with the hole in the nose, is more beneficial for them than a low nose and a bridge wing. I cant imagine the nose cone with the hole in it would work with a low nose like the mclaren?

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Like I said, it must just fit in with what they wanted to do with the overall package...
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