A clutch smokes like that???
Maybe a hydraulic fluid leak into the clutch?
I wonder how many of the people who watched the race on TV and switched it off afterwards will be left with the idea that it was another Renault PU failure.
Watched it a couple of times on F1 TV and it was quite unsafe imo.bonjon1979 wrote: ↑02 Sep 2018, 19:11Whatever happened to vettels unsafe release? Was described as a slam dunk at the time. Any video of it?
The green stuff is not tarmac, so grip is different. If a car goes over the green stuff with left wheels under braking, that could easily cause a spin and crash.Brake Horse Power wrote: ↑02 Sep 2018, 18:58I agreed watching the race Max deserved the penalty, however i can understand his explanation. He just basically says he left enough space for Bottas, considering the green stuff next to the tarmac is part of the track. Bottas didn't fully ride on the green stuff, and therefor Bottas caused the collision. Look at the on board of Bottas in the movie. I think it is in some way brilliant by pushing the rules to the limit..
https://streamable.com/s/n9xvl/pxwrcg
https://streamable.com/s/n9xvl/pxwrcg
The track limits is the white line, not the grass. So Bottas went as far as he could. Verstappen squeezed him too much.Andres125sx wrote: ↑02 Sep 2018, 19:14The green stuff is not tarmac, so grip is different. If a car goes over the green stuff with left wheels under braking, that could easily cause a spin and crash.Brake Horse Power wrote: ↑02 Sep 2018, 18:58I agreed watching the race Max deserved the penalty, however i can understand his explanation. He just basically says he left enough space for Bottas, considering the green stuff next to the tarmac is part of the track. Bottas didn't fully ride on the green stuff, and therefor Bottas caused the collision. Look at the on board of Bottas in the movie. I think it is in some way brilliant by pushing the rules to the limit..
https://streamable.com/s/n9xvl/pxwrcg
https://streamable.com/s/n9xvl/pxwrcg
Bottas went to the left all he could safely, there was no need to assume the risk of braking on the green stuff, there was more than enough space. But Max decided to not let him enough space. Not a surprise I´m afraid
Well deserved penalty for Verstappen
That´s what I was trying to say, but shorter and easier to understandringo wrote: ↑02 Sep 2018, 19:15The track limits is the white line, not the grass. So Bottas went as far as he could. Verstappen squeezed him too much.Andres125sx wrote: ↑02 Sep 2018, 19:14The green stuff is not tarmac, so grip is different. If a car goes over the green stuff with left wheels under braking, that could easily cause a spin and crash.Brake Horse Power wrote: ↑02 Sep 2018, 18:58I agreed watching the race Max deserved the penalty, however i can understand his explanation. He just basically says he left enough space for Bottas, considering the green stuff next to the tarmac is part of the track. Bottas didn't fully ride on the green stuff, and therefor Bottas caused the collision. Look at the on board of Bottas in the movie. I think it is in some way brilliant by pushing the rules to the limit..
https://streamable.com/s/n9xvl/pxwrcg
https://streamable.com/s/n9xvl/pxwrcg
Bottas went to the left all he could safely, there was no need to assume the risk of braking on the green stuff, there was more than enough space. But Max decided to not let him enough space. Not a surprise I´m afraid
Well deserved penalty for Verstappen
This is how it starts, the red mist tends to follow. I am afraid for a 2017 ending all over again.siskue2005 wrote: ↑02 Sep 2018, 19:15Vettel's blaming the other party for the collision.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/vett ... 83/?nrt=54
I actually watched him say so on sky with a lot of disbelief. He's not doing himself any favours making such arguments.siskue2005 wrote: ↑02 Sep 2018, 19:15Vettel's blaming the other party for the collision.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/vett ... 83/?nrt=54
Teds notebook has said that it was indeed a slam dunk unsafe release but because it was Sauber they have not called for an investigation (They get a lot of stuff from Ferrari) and the FIA/Stewards are happy to sweep it under the carpet.bonjon1979 wrote: ↑02 Sep 2018, 19:11Whatever happened to vettels unsafe release? Was described as a slam dunk at the time. Any video of it?
Well points deficit after Singapore - 28TAG wrote: ↑02 Sep 2018, 19:21This is how it starts, the red mist tends to follow. I am afraid for a 2017 ending all over again.siskue2005 wrote: ↑02 Sep 2018, 19:15Vettel's blaming the other party for the collision.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/vett ... 83/?nrt=54