Im pretty sure that the wing elements themself will be shaped to create the outwash, and that the endplate will be smaller, so it wont block the air being forced outwards by the wing itself. We already saw this concept on the Ferrari 2019 prototype wing.Sevach wrote: ↑11 Dec 2018, 10:49The extra downforce doesn't surprise me, the wings got bigger, the trinkets are gone, but the wing is bigger and taller.
I'd be surprised if the cars were slower.
The outwash... i was told by people more knowledgeable than me that with the old rules you needed to push the air far and wide to avoid the tyre, with the new rules not so much, but still there may be benefits.
I feel rules about the endplate will be crucial, is a shorter endplate still allowed? If it is they can shape the wing to push air out and avoid the tightened rules for endplates acting as a block.
Holm86 wrote: ↑11 Dec 2018, 14:54Im pretty sure that the wing elements themself will be shaped to create the outwash, and that the endplate will be smaller, so it wont block the air being forced outwards by the wing itself. We already saw this concept on the Ferrari 2019 prototype wing.Sevach wrote: ↑11 Dec 2018, 10:49The extra downforce doesn't surprise me, the wings got bigger, the trinkets are gone, but the wing is bigger and taller.
I'd be surprised if the cars were slower.
The outwash... i was told by people more knowledgeable than me that with the old rules you needed to push the air far and wide to avoid the tyre, with the new rules not so much, but still there may be benefits.
I feel rules about the endplate will be crucial, is a shorter endplate still allowed? If it is they can shape the wing to push air out and avoid the tightened rules for endplates acting as a block.
As for the rumored "bigger than doubble decker diffuser" loophole, I don't see that happening.
That Ferrari wing was just the 2018 wing with the cascades removed, that endplate/footplate is very illegal in 2019. The Williams and Force India wings from Hungary are closer, but I think both were still illegal.Holm86 wrote: ↑11 Dec 2018, 14:54Im pretty sure that the wing elements themself will be shaped to create the outwash, and that the endplate will be smaller, so it wont block the air being forced outwards by the wing itself. We already saw this concept on the Ferrari 2019 prototype wing.
As for the rumored "bigger than doubble decker diffuser" loophole, I don't see that happening.
I think the flap adjuster can split the flap like that Williams example, but I think the creative leeway in this region is limited.Just_a_fan wrote: ↑11 Dec 2018, 18:19Does the wing flap element have to be consistent in chord length? One might use a notch or some other geometry inboard of the endplate connection to generate a strong vortex, for example. This might be more effective if it causes a vortex that runs along the inside face of the tyre. The Williams test wing looks to be trying to do just that using a notch and the flap adjuster as a fence/strake.
So, as I read it, you can effectively create an <35mm tall wedge to seal the split between the adjustable portion of the flap and the static portion....Furthermore, the maximum deviation for any point of these profiles between the uppermost and lowermost angle of adjustment must not exceed 35mm. Minimal exceptions to the geometrical criteria for the wing profiles may be made in the junction between the adjustable and non-adjustable parts, in order to ensure the necessary level of sealing.
Nope.PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 00:56Let us not forget the bigger rear wings! See where I am going with this?
Less cryptic clues, more detailed discussion. This is a technical forum, not a crossword site...PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 00:56Let us not forget the bigger rear wings! See where I am going with this?
The retraction is much bigger for next year, enough that it can be a true aero surface.PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 00:56Let us not forget the bigger rear wings! See where I am going with this?
Which part do you mean? Sorry.godlameroso wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 15:15The retraction is much bigger for next year, enough that it can be a true aero surface.