McLaren MCL34 speculation thread

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So the intake has a different shape now, it's similar to the RB14.

[PhillipM]

They're moving more cooling into the upper chassis area, in fact I'd expect most teams to move more up there too this year even for the guys that were already doing it, as the rear wing being taller and wider means you disrupt it less, and you want to drive over the top of the diffuser harder to link the flow with the wing more than last year.

[_cerber1]

I hope Mclaren will succeed.

[cramr]

Why are people using last years results as a preview of what's to come this year? They stopped developing last year's car before the mid point of the season, they worked on this year's car since then. Will they be winning next year? Not likely, highly improbable, will they be as bad as they were last year? Impossible.

Because unlike Gambler's falacy the F1 is always an evolution of exiting things. Even if they say "we started from scratch" that's not real and not really possible if you want to have a car ready next season (maybe you can if you develop for 3-4 years).
Usually the cars are good or bad is linked to the technical management, strategic decision, targets, directions, etc... It could be some misscorrelation but that it's easily fixed. Once the teams are "lost" it's hard to bring them back in a positive line.

Anyway, in the end we will see in 1 month

[M840TR]

They're moving more cooling into the upper chassis area, in fact I'd expect most teams to move more up there too this year even for the guys that were already doing it, as the rear wing being taller and wider means you disrupt it less, and you want to drive over the top of the diffuser harder to link the flow with the wing more than last year.

I wonder if both Mclaren and Renault will go for Rb14 style packaging given its relative success.

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Yes Mclaren will very probably go (back) for that type of packaging (not necessaryly the RB kind). Renault allready did that in 2018. While RB puts as many coolers as possible around and behind the engine's airbox, Renault placed them under the airbox (I'm excluding the usual gearbox oil radiator placed behind the engine).
Remember, Mclaren too had a "more centerline cooling system" in 2015-2017 and has placed many coolers behind and above the airbox...

[GoranF1]

Whit this new set of regulations is it possible to see inwash FW endplates?

[Webber2011]

Whit this new set of regulations is it possible to see inwash FW endplates?

Surely not considering the width of the new wings ? ? ?

[FrukostScones]

Whit this new set of regulations is it possible to see inwash FW endplates?

Surely not considering the width of the new wings ? ? ?

never say never :



but we all know how this turned out....

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https://i.redd.it/0zffzm2f3bd11.jpg

[KingHamilton01]

They're moving more cooling into the upper chassis area, in fact I'd expect most teams to move more up there too this year even for the guys that were already doing it, as the rear wing being taller and wider means you disrupt it less, and you want to drive over the top of the diffuser harder to link the flow with the wing more than last year.

I wonder if both Mclaren and Renault will go for Rb14 style packaging given its relative success.

I think McLaren would do well to adapt Red bulls concepts in a number of area's of there car, I will be very surprised if we don't at least see much more aggressive sidepod design and a Larger airbox for improved cooling something they had issues with in pre-season before.

[M840TR]

They're moving more cooling into the upper chassis area, in fact I'd expect most teams to move more up there too this year even for the guys that were already doing it, as the rear wing being taller and wider means you disrupt it less, and you want to drive over the top of the diffuser harder to link the flow with the wing more than last year.

I wonder if both Mclaren and Renault will go for Rb14 style packaging given its relative success.

I think McLaren would do well to adapt Red bulls concepts in a number of area's of there car, I will be very surprised if we don't at least see much more aggressive sidepod design and a Larger airbox for improved cooling something they had issues with in pre-season before.

It was exhaust cooling that they had issues with, a relatively minor issue fixed with a few holes; engine cooling was great. The reason I reckon they'll probably follow the Rb14 is because they've demonstrated the limitations of the engine in terms of how far you can push the packaging for aero benefits.

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Another sneak peek.

https://i.imgur.com/ng0Ikhv.jpg

Airbox......?

Seems like it.

Seems to be larger and not triangular. Would be the first Mclaren F1 car with no "triangular" air-box intake since ages... (since 1978?)
The 2016 and 2014 were very rounded, but they still have a triangular shape.
https://www.formula1.com/content/fom-we ... 546101.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bb/e7/fe ... ee542a.jpg
Or maybe the pic is only showing the loweer part of a split intake?

[michl420]

MP4-17 (2002) had a more or less round airbox intake.

[M840TR]

Airbox......?

Seems like it.

Seems to be larger and not triangular. Would be the first Mclaren F1 car with no "triangular" air-box intake since ages... (since 1978?)
The 2016 and 2014 were very rounded, but they still have a triangular shape.
https://www.formula1.com/content/fom-we ... 546101.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bb/e7/fe ... ee542a.jpg
Or maybe the pic is only showing the loweer part of a split intake?
https://i87.servimg.com/u/f87/14/79/55/26/ng0ikh11.jpg

It's important to note that this probably is the main air intake with the ancillary ones at the sides, making it even wider than what appears in the image.