2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

[Manoah2u]

Mclaren and Mercedes still aren't direct competitors. One sells mid-engined track focused supercars, the other mostly luxury sedans and family saloons. It had more to do with how Ron and Whitmarsh ran the team. in 8 years the factory Merc has won more than twice the championships they did with Mclaren in 16, and is dominating the sport since half a decade; these stats say it all really. Never mind the spygate saga.

That's an over simplification of the past 8 years.
Won't go into it too much, but from the very beginning of the McLaren Mercedes partnership, Mercedes wasn't always tje most reliable engine, whereas the McLaren chassis was amazing.
Mercrdes has had it very easy since their return, especially in the hybrid era.

As soon as Mercedes looses domination they will start to complain like Honda, Toyota, BMW and co. and leave F1.
Mclaren will stay.
Mclaren is legend, Mercedes is ---.

perhaps you should save this comment so you can look how stupid you sound when Mclaren turns back to Mercedes, the last brand they were successfull with.

[Jackles-UK]

You say that like McLaren didn’t try and move heaven, hell & high water in 2017 to try and run with a Mercedes PU for 2018 when they were negotiating a split with Honda. Mercedes were the ones who flatly refused - I assume it’s because they see McLaren as a title threat in a way that they don’t with Williams & Force India. Can’t see that opinion changing any time soon, despite McLaren’s recent maladies.

[Manoah2u]

You say that like McLaren didn’t try and move heaven, hell & high water in 2017 to try and run with a Mercedes PU for 2018 when they were negotiating a split with Honda. Mercedes were the ones who flatly refused - I assume it’s because they see McLaren as a title threat in a way that they don’t with Williams & Force India. Can’t see that opinion changing any time soon, despite McLaren’s recent maladies.

ill refute that TOTAL BULLSH*T story to the land of fairytales

http://www.espn.in/f1/story/_/id/218899 ... es-mclaren

Toto Wolff says Mercedes wanted to supply McLaren with engines in 2018 but negotiations dragged on for too long.

Wolff insists Mercedes was interested in a deal, but says he was not able to put the infrastructure in place to cater for a fourth customer team at such short notice.

"We wanted to give McLaren an engine, the problem is that it dragged on for a long time and we just didn't have the structure in place and the capacity to supply them an engine for 2018," Wolff told ESPN. "It was simply too late."

Asked if McLaren could return as a customer in the future, Wolff added: "You must never rule out supplying anybody in the future and this is why McLaren or anyone else in the future could be a partner."

please keep complete and utter lies away, and inform yourself better first.
Mercedes denied RedBull an engine, not Mclaren.
words from Toto Wolff himself.

So NO, Mclaren did NOT move heaven, hell and high water. That's quite frankly what their problem has been for the past years.

The only mentioning of Mercedes supposedly not willing to provide them was a hypothetical assumption made by Zak Brown claiming they (ferrari and mercedes) preferred seeing them at the back of the grid, and was nothing actually concrete but random talk. Hell, they still were convinced then they'd stay with Honda and Honda would turn things around and give them a winning engine.

The only team responsible for not having Mercedes is Mclaren themselves. They dragged it on for too long, and then couldn't get ANY engine. Not even the renault engine, as they were TOO LATE for that too. Who's fault would that be? ah yes, again, MCLAREN. The ONLY reason they have an engine in 2018 is because they managed to switch with Toro Rosso's Renault engine.

[Webber2011]

You say that like McLaren didn’t try and move heaven, hell & high water in 2017 to try and run with a Mercedes PU for 2018 when they were negotiating a split with Honda. Mercedes were the ones who flatly refused - I assume it’s because they see McLaren as a title threat in a way that they don’t with Williams & Force India. Can’t see that opinion changing any time soon, despite McLaren’s recent maladies.

ill refute that TOTAL BULLSH*T story to the land of fairytales

http://www.espn.in/f1/story/_/id/218899 ... es-mclaren

Toto Wolff says Mercedes wanted to supply McLaren with engines in 2018 but negotiations dragged on for too long.

Wolff insists Mercedes was interested in a deal, but says he was not able to put the infrastructure in place to cater for a fourth customer team at such short notice.

"We wanted to give McLaren an engine, the problem is that it dragged on for a long time and we just didn't have the structure in place and the capacity to supply them an engine for 2018," Wolff told ESPN. "It was simply too late."

Asked if McLaren could return as a customer in the future, Wolff added: "You must never rule out supplying anybody in the future and this is why McLaren or anyone else in the future could be a partner."

please keep complete and utter lies away, and inform yourself better first.
Mercedes denied RedBull an engine, not Mclaren.
words from Toto Wolff himself.

So NO, Mclaren did NOT move heaven, hell and high water. That's quite frankly what their problem has been for the past years.

The only mentioning of Mercedes supposedly not willing to provide them was a hypothetical assumption made by Zak Brown claiming they (ferrari and mercedes) preferred seeing them at the back of the grid, and was nothing actually concrete but random talk. Hell, they still were convinced then they'd stay with Honda and Honda would turn things around and give them a winning engine.

The only team responsible for not having Mercedes is Mclaren themselves. They dragged it on for too long, and then couldn't get ANY engine. Not even the renault engine, as they were TOO LATE for that too. Who's fault would that be? ah yes, again, MCLAREN. The ONLY reason they have an engine in 2018 is because they managed to switch with Toro Rosso's Renault engine.

What's your fascination with capital letters ?

Sounds like you are yelling all the time.

[GoranF1]

That's an over simplification of the past 8 years.
Won't go into it too much, but from the very beginning of the McLaren Mercedes partnership, Mercedes wasn't always tje most reliable engine, whereas the McLaren chassis was amazing.
Mercrdes has had it very easy since their return, especially in the hybrid era.

As soon as Mercedes looses domination they will start to complain like Honda, Toyota, BMW and co. and leave F1.
Mclaren will stay.
Mclaren is legend, Mercedes is ---.

perhaps you should save this comment so you can look how stupid you sound when Mclaren turns back to Mercedes, the last brand they were successfull with.

That will not happen any time soon.

[Xero]

https://twitter.com/McLarenF1/status/10 ... 2189184000

Could we be in for a chrome papaya livery this year?

[_cerber1]

Good news, Renault has a new dynamometer stand.

[mclaren111]

Good news, Renault has a new dynamometer stand.

What's the purpose of a dynanometer ?

[_cerber1]

Good news, Renault has a new dynamometer stand.

What's the purpose of a dynanometer ?

motor

[M840TR]

Good news, Renault has a new dynamometer stand.

That's the stand for the chassis.

[M840TR]

Good news, Renault has a new dynamometer stand.

What's the purpose of a dynanometer ?

Measures the power of a rotating device like engine or transmission.

[RonDennis]

The trouble is, You could end up 1 second off the pace, but have Merc, Ferrari, RedBull out front, Renault half a second away, then Sauber, Racing Point, Haas and even Toro Rosso all in and around the 1 second gap. So 1 second off the pace and be only score 5 points across 5 races!

Yeah, the chances of that happening are 0. I wouldn't even be surprised if Red Bull, Mercedes and Ferrari will increase their gap to the rest, considering their resources it's much more likely.

[PhillipM]

I think people are getting a little optimistic, Mclaren want to be back in the midfield pack, and hoping to be leading that pack by the summer break, they're not expecting to come out and be trying to chase down Ferrari.

Also that's gold heat reflective foil, not livery vinyl.

[diffuser]

Mileage from the opening practice session. All 8 days of testing with at least 100 laps each, then just keep pushing the design of the car until Melbourne.

They had plenty of time to rework the chassis to not only address its shortcomings, but to be as prepared as possible for the new regs. They are getting a massively upgraded Renault power unit.

I honestly think 2019 Mclaren will be over a second per lap faster than it was in 2018. Will that be enough, considering the deficit was 1.7 seconds, and if the new regulations slow the cars down a few tenths relative to 2018. They may be competitive enough to have a season long scrap with Renault for 4th best.

I agree with all that but I have to add that there are some fairly large question marks for RBR. The PUs are completely different. I doubt the packaging will be as efficient this first year with Honda as it was after 5 years with Renault. They've also gotten it wrong before after a rule change and taken a good part of the year to correct it. So there is hope there.

[Xero]

Also that's gold heat reflective foil, not livery vinyl.

Yes, I figured that out after I posted, 100% heat foil. Too quick to judge!