A screenshot I took from a video Mercedes AMG F1 put on their YouTube page
I saw that as well, they have definitely gone to great lengths to make sure no one has gotten a good look at the rear end.Morteza wrote: ↑15 Feb 2019, 18:05A screenshot I took from a video Mercedes AMG F1 put on their YouTube page
https://i.imgur.com/Vaq7Afg.png
Giando, I believe the W09 had a similar arrangement. In the image below of the W09, look at the outboard end of the pushrod: a seam and a bump/knuckle are apparent.bill shoe wrote: ↑15 Feb 2019, 03:00Yep, that seems absolutely correct now. Good call.
The FIA passed a rule a season or two ago (in response to Red Bull doing a similar pushrod location) that limits the vertical ride height change to 5 or 10 mm as steering goes through full lock. So Merc is either doing something a little more clever than that, or they are simply making sure they are right up on the FIA limit. The Merc upper control arm and resulting kingpin axis would tend to force the Merc pivot point even further inboard than Red Bull.
For many years these cars have enclosed all the interesting suspension bits under nosecones or behind wheel shrouds. Some of the important kinematic parts are starting to cautiously stick theirs heads out in to the sunlight where we can see them again!!
Seemingly such arrangements would pass significant suspension loads through the steering arms.
Red Bull style diffuser?Morteza wrote: ↑15 Feb 2019, 18:05A screenshot I took from a video Mercedes AMG F1 put on their YouTube page
https://i.imgur.com/Vaq7Afg.png
Hi Roon, i don't know... to me, it seems that the offset push/rod attachment on the W10 is further backwards respect to the upper whishbone pivot connector... my simple attempt with the available pictures to highlight this fact is down here... what do you think? It looks really different than the W09 doesn't it?roon wrote: ↑15 Feb 2019, 22:56Giando, I believe the W09 had a similar arrangement. In the image below of the W09, look at the outboard end of the pushrod: a seam and a bump/knuckle are apparent.bill shoe wrote: ↑15 Feb 2019, 03:00Yep, that seems absolutely correct now. Good call.
The FIA passed a rule a season or two ago (in response to Red Bull doing a similar pushrod location) that limits the vertical ride height change to 5 or 10 mm as steering goes through full lock. So Merc is either doing something a little more clever than that, or they are simply making sure they are right up on the FIA limit. The Merc upper control arm and resulting kingpin axis would tend to force the Merc pivot point even further inboard than Red Bull.
For many years these cars have enclosed all the interesting suspension bits under nosecones or behind wheel shrouds. Some of the important kinematic parts are starting to cautiously stick theirs heads out in to the sunlight where we can see them again!!
https://cdn-6.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... detail.jpg
Bill, Red Bull indeed were doing something similar in previous seasons with an offset pushrod attachment. Apparent in these images of the RB13 below:
Seemingly such arrangements would pass significant suspension loads through the steering arms.
I don't think pivot is the right word to use, but you do understand that i am saying the bulb is an aerodynamic fairing?
Exposed and enlarged.Sevach wrote: ↑15 Feb 2019, 23:10Red Bull style diffuser?Morteza wrote: ↑15 Feb 2019, 18:05A screenshot I took from a video Mercedes AMG F1 put on their YouTube page
https://i.imgur.com/Vaq7Afg.png
From this photo you can also see how much slimmer the sidepods are.
No, I think the other guy is right and the socket/pivot is there, the inner part is part of the upright. I think they're skirting right on the limits of the ride height changes in lock.
I wouldn’t say so since they have gone the exact opposite route with an inwash concept.
There is no inwashScrewCaptain27 wrote: ↑16 Feb 2019, 16:02I wouldn’t say so since they have gone the exact opposite route with an inwash concept.
Then why do the endplates bend inwards?
Watch Scarbs' video - he explains itScrewCaptain27 wrote: ↑16 Feb 2019, 16:14Then why do the endplates bend inwards?mantikos wrote: ↑16 Feb 2019, 16:12There is no inwashScrewCaptain27 wrote: ↑16 Feb 2019, 16:02
I wouldn’t say so since they have gone the exact opposite route with an inwash concept.
That looks more like overwash.ScrewCaptain27 wrote: ↑16 Feb 2019, 16:14Then why do the endplates bend inwards?mantikos wrote: ↑16 Feb 2019, 16:12There is no inwashScrewCaptain27 wrote: ↑16 Feb 2019, 16:02
I wouldn’t say so since they have gone the exact opposite route with an inwash concept.