F1 2019 Pre-Season Testing Thread

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Let's see if it's faster with the new wing. And how that wing looks...

And right now i can't come up with a "gives you wings" joke. Damn. :lol:

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HUL 1.19.157 C3 without DRS.

Renault faster than Ferrari. : )
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Ferrari are running with ridged rear wheel rims, a la Mercedes https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ferr ... s/4340926/

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Tzk wrote:
20 Feb 2019, 11:37
Well, it's quite obvious that Ferrari is currently using higher powermodes than the mercs. Mercs are just crusing and collecting data while Ferrari is testing longrun pace (not completely flatout, but with higher powermodes). Currently Vettels seems to test how strong the tires are in terms of overheating and degradation.
You say that like it's obvious but weren't Hamilton's long run times very fast?

In reality what Ferrari has more often done than not over the past 5-6 years is do a lot of their running with medium or low fuel while Merc have almost universally done their long runs (when they refuel, race sims are different) with absolutely loaded up fuel.

For years you had FP2 pace where Ferrari was either on par with or even just ahead of Merc in long run pace, but when it came to the race there was no contest. As in in 2015/16 when they were still completely dominated Ferrari frequently looked close in FP2, it's because they were in effect doing it with 0.5-1.5 second a laps worth of fuel missing, but then come the race Merc either comfortably sat a 5 seconds ahead then cruised or if the Mercs were fighting each other and 1-2, they would push each other and leave the Ferrari's in their dust more often than not.

It's just a standard thing where every team has their own method and to keep data comparable from one year to the next, from one race to the next, from one car to the next they tend to all stick to whatever they've gotten used to. Merc almost always go balls to the wall fuelled to the hilt seemingly slowest possible.

In reality race pace is and always has been cruising so I don't think Bottas saying that means they are going slow nor do I think there is a lot of point them getting aero data and speeds they don't want to be running.

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1.18.800 HUL without DRS C4....
explosive!
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the session haas come to a stop
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Well, fuel load is another explanation. However i was refering to the low 1:18 lap that vettel posted. Haven't seen the mercs do this. Regarding the longrun pace: you never know if it's the powermodes, fuel amount or a combination of both. Or even different downforce and drag levels. For example RedBull announced that they'll mount a new wing with more downforce now...
FrukostScones wrote:
20 Feb 2019, 12:34
1.18.800 HUL without DRS C4....
Yep, considering that DRS gives you about half a second laptime...
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Fittipaldi has stopped on track.
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FrukostScones wrote:
20 Feb 2019, 12:24
HUL 1.19.157 C3 without DRS.

Renault faster than Ferrari. : )
I'm not sure where you're getting that, before Hulk did that vettel already did two laps that were low 1.18, and these times still aren't anything close to explosive.

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Tzk wrote:
20 Feb 2019, 12:38
Well, fuel load is another explanation. However i was refering to the low 1:18 lap that vettel posted. Haven't seen the mercs do this. Regarding the longrun pace: you never know if it's the powermodes, fuel amount or a combination of both. Or even different downforce and drag levels. For example RedBull announced that they'll mount a new wing with more downforce now...
FrukostScones wrote:
20 Feb 2019, 12:34
1.18.800 HUL without DRS C4....
Yep, considering that DRS gives you about half a second laptime...
I though with 2019 cars, DRS is worth 7 to 8 tenth on Barcelona :wink:
1.19.1 on C3 is interesting, put it at same level than Ferrari did the two previous days - but of course we don't know fuel loads -

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Tzk wrote:
20 Feb 2019, 12:38
Well, fuel load is another explanation. However i was refering to the low 1:18 lap that vettel posted. Haven't seen the mercs do this. Regarding the longrun pace: you never know if it's the powermodes, fuel amount or a combination of both. Or even different downforce and drag levels. For example RedBull announced that they'll mount a new wing with more downforce now...
FrukostScones wrote:
20 Feb 2019, 12:34
1.18.800 HUL without DRS C4....
Yep, considering that DRS gives you about half a second laptime...
DRS is worth more than half a seconf on this track especially with the bigger 2019 rear wings now.
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Last minute instruction - do not break it!! 8)
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Just goes to Show testing times dont mean much

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What's the value of topping the testing times?
The perennial question at this time of year, of course, but certainly the stats show that in this hybrid turbo era, Ferrari have topped more winter timesheets than anyone.

In fact, including yesterday, nearly double that of Mercedes.

Winter timesheets topped since 2014 (top five)

Ferrari - 19
Mercedes - 10

Williams - 6

Force India - 4

Red Bull - 3

Of course, Ferrari's winter pace has yet to translate into a world championship. Will this be the year that changes?

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What the hell is Racing Point doing from last 3 days ? They haven't done more than 5 laps in single stint, I don't understand which kind of test program they are following. On their 3rd day they must look for some long run data atleast.