F1 2019 Pre-Season Testing Thread

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All teams are holding back on developments. This is F1, you don't come up with something and bolt in on the car the next day, you have lead teams for production, analysis to work out whether it's worth extra dev time for resources vs reward against other parts and avenues.

Development is a continous process down many avenues in parallel - why do you think they all wait as late as possible to build the cars up before testing? #-o

Why do you think every team always says "we have new packages coming for race day" in testing?
By your reasoning they should have just bolted them on now. :lol:

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Bit of dumb question but the drivers are all taking turns... Does that mean the teams only bring one car to this test or do they have one for each driver???

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RAF wrote:
20 Feb 2019, 18:45
Bit of dumb question but the drivers are all taking turns... Does that mean the teams only bring one car to this test or do they have one for each driver???
Only one car is build for now and exchanged between drivers

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Not so bad RIC lap in 1.18.1 in C4
I've read some rumors that they use kinda "2018" DRS for now, not the real one.
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Just_a_fan wrote:
20 Feb 2019, 18:37
GPR -A wrote:
20 Feb 2019, 17:55
Hamilton's long stint (All on C2).

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The first part of that looks remarkably consistent.
So if a lap of fuel is worth just over 0.100 a lap (Im sure I heard that somewhere) he did 47 laps, He could have gone about 5 seconds faster if he didnt have 47 laps of fuel onboard. Then he was on he 2nd hardest tyre, so he could have gone softer by 3 compounds with an average gap of about 0.7 per compound, so he could have gone about 2 seconds faster on the C5 tyre, That Mercedes could have done a 1.16.1xx and thats without even turning the car up! I'd say the Merc has serious pace [-o<
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Kvyat goes fastest 1.17.704 on the C5 tyre

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PhillipM wrote:
20 Feb 2019, 18:41
All teams are holding back on developments. This is F1, you don't come up with something and bolt in on the car the next day, you have lead teams for production, analysis to work out whether it's worth extra dev time for resources vs reward against other parts and avenues.

Development is a continous process down many avenues in parallel - why do you think they all wait as late as possible to build the cars up before testing? #-o

Why do you think every team always says "we have new packages coming for race day" in testing?
By your reasoning they should have just bolted them on now. :lol:
holding back because of internal reasons I agree but whenever there is components available which makes you faster it is a no-brainer to put them on right away in order to verify data with reality.

they wait with building up the cars because of the nature of an development run. They just simply don't have sufficient time to validate and produce internally. Williams is a good example this year.

You are talking about a scenario within the actual race season. We all were expecting significant changes on the cars coming Melbourne. Rarely I have seen something significant. Obviously the teams learn a lot during pre season testing. They correlate their virtual numbers with the actual ones and try to gain performance until the season goes off.

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What's wrong with HAAS? Third time today they have to stop on track because of some kind of issue.

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PhillipM wrote:
20 Feb 2019, 18:41
All teams are holding back on developments. This is F1, you don't come up with something and bolt in on the car the next day, you have lead teams for production, analysis to work out whether it's worth extra dev time for resources vs reward against other parts and avenues.

Development is a continous process down many avenues in parallel - why do you think they all wait as late as possible to build the cars up before testing? #-o

Why do you think every team always says "we have new packages coming for race day" in testing?
By your reasoning they should have just bolted them on now. :lol:
It's because they need to build them, ship them... "We have new packages coming..." means that they have them in CAD and hope to be able to craft them in time... Especially in the beginning of the season when they don't even have enough spare parts...
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I don't think there is anything more annoying in F1 than Haas F1 and their drivers.

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Mr.G wrote:
20 Feb 2019, 18:58
PhillipM wrote:
20 Feb 2019, 18:41
All teams are holding back on developments. This is F1, you don't come up with something and bolt in on the car the next day, you have lead teams for production, analysis to work out whether it's worth extra dev time for resources vs reward against other parts and avenues.

Development is a continous process down many avenues in parallel - why do you think they all wait as late as possible to build the cars up before testing? #-o

Why do you think every team always says "we have new packages coming for race day" in testing?
By your reasoning they should have just bolted them on now. :lol:
It's because they need to build them, ship them... "We have new packages coming..." means that they have them in CAD and hope to be able to craft them in time... Especially in the beginning of the season when they don't even have enough spare parts...
Exactly

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TimmTurbo wrote:
20 Feb 2019, 18:54
You are talking about a scenario within the actual race season. We all were expecting significant changes on the cars coming Melbourne. Rarely I have seen something significant. Obviously the teams learn a lot during pre season testing. They correlate their virtual numbers with the actual ones and try to gain performance until the season goes off.
You are missing the fact that there is more than one way to get correlation. Not to mention if someone is sandbagging, they do it because they don't want the others to know what they are capable of.
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182 laps in the books for Mercedes!
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dans79 wrote:
20 Feb 2019, 19:03
TimmTurbo wrote:
20 Feb 2019, 18:54
You are talking about a scenario within the actual race season. We all were expecting significant changes on the cars coming Melbourne. Rarely I have seen something significant. Obviously the teams learn a lot during pre season testing. They correlate their virtual numbers with the actual ones and try to gain performance until the season goes off.
You are missing the fact that there is more than one way to get correlation. Not to mention if someone is sandbagging, they do it because they don't want the others to know what they are capable of.
What's the point of sandbagging? Does it make the other teams decide to slack on their development?
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